[General] PHP Framework for Mobile-Friendly Sites

[Majed B.]

Also,

I have no problem writing HTML 4.0 Strict. My problem is just to
properly use or almost achieve MVC.

Stuff lacked in Strict mode aren't important and do have basic
alternatives anyway. And since my target is mobile phones, I wanted to
keep things minimalistic, so even style sheets won't be used (or very
very little of it :p)

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bashar,
>
> All recent phones from Nokia support what I want to do, along with BB,
> iPhone & Android.
>
> Nokia phones that can handle what I want: E90, N82, N93, N93i, N95,
> E71, E66, N78, N96, 6220
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:00 AM, bashar abdullah
> <bashar.abdullah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Majed, what I meant is, by saying Strict HTML 4.0 they're trying to support majority of all mobile browsers. But is that your target, or would BB, Android and iPhone be almost as good?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ahmad,
>>>
>>> I've been checking websites made by PHPCake and seems like majority
>>> are using XHTML, but I found a couple using Strict HTML 4.0, which is
>>> comforting.
>>>
>>> PHPCake does have a templating module, so it saves me some time (hopefully).
>>>
>>> As for Python, I prefer to stick with what I know now, and using PHP,
>>> I can deploy my code on shared hosts easily.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:03 AM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
>>> > Majed, web frameworks has nothing to do with HTML generation, you can
>>> > place your own html tags in your templates, I highly recommend using
>>> > Django and Python instead of PHP.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>> >
>>> > Majed B. wrote:
>>> >> Bashar, according to W3C, it clearly said to use STRICT HTML 4.0.
>>> >>
>>> >> I was actually surprised because strict html 4.0 is quite limiting
>>> >> (<span> is not allowed, autocomplete is not allowed either for
>>> >> example).
>>> >>
>>> >> And as I wanted to alleviate the overhead of worrying about
>>> >> model-view-code intermixing, I see that frameworks are competing on
>>> >> which to abuse the most modern features of desktop browsers.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll keep poking around but if I can't find something useful in a few
>>> >> days, I'll be compelled to cook my own solution, which I know will
>>> >> still be somewhat messy :/
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:28 PM, bashar abdullah
>>> >> <bashar.abdullah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>> That's good move as in Kuwait 99% of the time, the mobile is ignored. There
>>> >>> are some commercial apps I heard of for converting and trimming down sites,
>>> >>> but I doubt they're so reliable, and more importantly, are expensive.
>>> >>> Question though. Is your target market all phones? Right now, it's most of
>>> >>> the time good to support iPhone, BB, and Android, as these are the majority
>>> >>> who use the web on their phone, and also have good XHTML support.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Hello everyone,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'm building a website to provide data viewable from mobile phones. I
>>> >>>> started writing the PHP code from scratch, but things have started
>>> >>>> tangling and get messy as the view is getting too bound to the logic &
>>> >>>> data.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I was looking at using one of the many PHP frameworks, but where they
>>> >>>> tout AJAX support and all that, I'm looking for a minimalistic
>>> >>>> approach and make sure that the site is fully functional on all
>>> >>>> phones.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> According to the W3C, mobile-friendly sites should be developed using
>>> >>>> Strict HTML 4.0.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? Whether a framework or a Do It
>>> >>>> Yourself (DIY) approach.
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>>       Majed B.
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