From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Thu Oct  1 06:18:13 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:18:13 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>

Salam,

I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!

I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that time, it
was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
the start of my contribution to the project.

Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the reusable
apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can choose
to start with Pinax:

Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification, mailer,
announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.

Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
photo albums, tagging, etc.

CMS project - content management system

Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
and other stuff.

There are other projects as well.

Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django projects,
it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a website
that everyone needs.

I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help or
 would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.

I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid web
development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be happy
to do that.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Burhan Khalid wrote:
> Salaam All:
> 
>   I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this list so
> I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
> latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
> 
>   Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
> actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with success
> on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that is
> required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many apps
> to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package the
> apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
> things others have already tested.
> 
>    If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
> pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
> everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
> Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
> compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get with
> django:
> 
>   * openid support
>   * email verification
>   * password management
>   * site announcements
>   * notification framework
>   * user-to-user messaging
>   * friend invitation
>   * twitter clone
>   * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
>   * gravatar support
>   * interest groups
>   * project management features (tasks & issue management)
>   * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
>   * wikis with markup support
>   * blogging
>   * bookmark management
>   * tagging
>   * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
>   * photo management
> 
>   All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
> create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of websites. So,
> if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
> home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com. If you are
> wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a big user
> of pinax.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Burhan Khalid
> 
> 1. pinaxproject.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 



From majedb at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 08:48:56 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:48:56 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com> 
	<4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0909302248n2711a0e2xc2684e857aff1a81@mail.gmail.com>

Ahmad,

If you're willing to do a seminar about that, I'd suggest you contact the
Kuwait society of engineers and reserve a room from them. They can announce
the seminar so it may attract even more audience, most likely from colleges
of science and engineering.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:

> Salam,
>
> I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
> to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!
>
> I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that time, it
> was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
> developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
> the start of my contribution to the project.
>
> Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
> helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the reusable
> apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can choose
> to start with Pinax:
>
> Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification, mailer,
> announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
> timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.
>
> Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
> messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
> photo albums, tagging, etc.
>
> CMS project - content management system
>
> Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
> and other stuff.
>
> There are other projects as well.
>
> Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django projects,
> it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a website
> that everyone needs.
>
> I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help or
>  would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.
>
> I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid web
> development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
> Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
> years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be happy
> to do that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Burhan Khalid wrote:
> > Salaam All:
> >
> >   I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this list so
> > I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
> > latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
> >
> >   Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
> > actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with success
> > on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that is
> > required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many apps
> > to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package the
> > apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
> > things others have already tested.
> >
> >    If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
> > pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
> > everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
> > Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
> > compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get with
> > django:
> >
> >   * openid support
> >   * email verification
> >   * password management
> >   * site announcements
> >   * notification framework
> >   * user-to-user messaging
> >   * friend invitation
> >   * twitter clone
> >   * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
> >   * gravatar support
> >   * interest groups
> >   * project management features (tasks & issue management)
> >   * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
> >   * wikis with markup support
> >   * blogging
> >   * bookmark management
> >   * tagging
> >   * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
> >   * photo management
> >
> >   All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
> > create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of websites. So,
> > if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
> > home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com. If you are
> > wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a big user
> > of pinax.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Burhan Khalid
> >
> > 1. pinaxproject.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



-- 
      Majed B.
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From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 13:20:33 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:20:33 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>
	<4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <57BECCCF-3F3F-478D-8462-765BF5F23ADB@gmail.com>

Ahmad:

   There are lots of things - especially related to Python - that I  
only talk about to myself since Python is a bit of a stranger on this  
list, please feel free to post about it as at least one other person  
is interested.

   I did try out Pinax but for what I wanted in the end, I found  
another Python project that is more aligned with what I was looking  
for. Its called Zine (zine.pocoo.org) - you should recognize pocoo.org  
as they have some very nice Python projects (Pygments and Sphinx being  
the two most popular).

Regards,
--
Burhan Khalid

On 1 Oct 2009, at 06:18, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:

> Salam,
>
> I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
> to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!
>
> I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that  
> time, it
> was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
> developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
> the start of my contribution to the project.
>
> Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
> helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the  
> reusable
> apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can  
> choose
> to start with Pinax:
>
> Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification,  
> mailer,
> announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
> timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.
>
> Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
> messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
> photo albums, tagging, etc.
>
> CMS project - content management system
>
> Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
> and other stuff.
>
> There are other projects as well.
>
> Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django  
> projects,
> it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a  
> website
> that everyone needs.
>
> I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help  
> or
> would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.
>
> I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid  
> web
> development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
> Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
> years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be  
> happy
> to do that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Burhan Khalid wrote:
>> Salaam All:
>>
>>  I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this list  
>> so
>> I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
>> latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
>>
>>  Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
>> actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with  
>> success
>> on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that is
>> required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many  
>> apps
>> to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package  
>> the
>> apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
>> things others have already tested.
>>
>>   If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
>> pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
>> everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
>> Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
>> compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get with
>> django:
>>
>>  * openid support
>>  * email verification
>>  * password management
>>  * site announcements
>>  * notification framework
>>  * user-to-user messaging
>>  * friend invitation
>>  * twitter clone
>>  * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
>>  * gravatar support
>>  * interest groups
>>  * project management features (tasks & issue management)
>>  * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
>>  * wikis with markup support
>>  * blogging
>>  * bookmark management
>>  * tagging
>>  * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
>>  * photo management
>>
>>  All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
>> create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of  
>> websites. So,
>> if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
>> home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com. If you are
>> wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a big  
>> user
>> of pinax.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -- 
>> Burhan Khalid
>>
>> 1. pinaxproject.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org




From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 13:21:52 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:21:52 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0909302248n2711a0e2xc2684e857aff1a81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>
	<4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
	<70ed7c3e0909302248n2711a0e2xc2684e857aff1a81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA2B3FB1-1B32-4911-AAD9-F90992FB30A2@gmail.com>

As for the seminars, I would also be willing to volunteer some time as  
Django, TurboGears, Zope, Python etc. are all things that I have used  
to some extent.

Regards,
--
Burhan Khalid

On 1 Oct 2009, at 08:48, Majed B. wrote:

> Ahmad,
>
> If you're willing to do a seminar about that, I'd suggest you  
> contact the Kuwait society of engineers and reserve a room from  
> them. They can announce the seminar so it may attract even more  
> audience, most likely from colleges of science and engineering.
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>  
> wrote:
> Salam,
>
> I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
> to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!
>
> I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that  
> time, it
> was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
> developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
> the start of my contribution to the project.
>
> Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
> helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the  
> reusable
> apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can  
> choose
> to start with Pinax:
>
> Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification,  
> mailer,
> announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
> timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.
>
> Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
> messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
> photo albums, tagging, etc.
>
> CMS project - content management system
>
> Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
> and other stuff.
>
> There are other projects as well.
>
> Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django  
> projects,
> it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a  
> website
> that everyone needs.
>
> I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help  
> or
>  would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.
>
> I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid  
> web
> development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
> Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
> years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be  
> happy
> to do that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Burhan Khalid wrote:
> > Salaam All:
> >
> >   I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this  
> list so
> > I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
> > latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
> >
> >   Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
> > actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with  
> success
> > on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that  
> is
> > required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many  
> apps
> > to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package  
> the
> > apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
> > things others have already tested.
> >
> >    If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
> > pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
> > everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
> > Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
> > compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get  
> with
> > django:
> >
> >   * openid support
> >   * email verification
> >   * password management
> >   * site announcements
> >   * notification framework
> >   * user-to-user messaging
> >   * friend invitation
> >   * twitter clone
> >   * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
> >   * gravatar support
> >   * interest groups
> >   * project management features (tasks & issue management)
> >   * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
> >   * wikis with markup support
> >   * blogging
> >   * bookmark management
> >   * tagging
> >   * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
> >   * photo management
> >
> >   All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
> > create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of  
> websites. So,
> > if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
> > home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com. If you  
> are
> > wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a  
> big user
> > of pinax.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Burhan Khalid
> >
> > 1. pinaxproject.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>
>
> -- 
>       Majed B.
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Thu Oct  1 14:21:04 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:21:04 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <57BECCCF-3F3F-478D-8462-765BF5F23ADB@gmail.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>	<4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
	<57BECCCF-3F3F-478D-8462-765BF5F23ADB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC490A0.2050907@koutbo6.com>

Pocoo projects are interesting, and some of them are widely used in
python community, Zine and Pinax are two different things Zine is a CMS,
Pinax is a platform with numerous plugabble apps and CMS is one of the apps.

An interesting Django CMS is FeinCMS http://spinlock.ch/pub/feincms/

There is a discussion going on in Pinax core developers list to include
FeinCMS in Pinax instead of current one since FeinCMS is feature rich
and covers almost everyone needs.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Burhan Khalid wrote:
> Ahmad:
> 
>   There are lots of things - especially related to Python - that I only
> talk about to myself since Python is a bit of a stranger on this list,
> please feel free to post about it as at least one other person is
> interested.
> 
>   I did try out Pinax but for what I wanted in the end, I found another
> Python project that is more aligned with what I was looking for. Its
> called Zine (zine.pocoo.org) - you should recognize pocoo.org as they
> have some very nice Python projects (Pygments and Sphinx being the two
> most popular).
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Burhan Khalid
> 
> On 1 Oct 2009, at 06:18, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> 
>> Salam,
>>
>> I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
>> to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!
>>
>> I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that time, it
>> was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
>> developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
>> the start of my contribution to the project.
>>
>> Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
>> helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the reusable
>> apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can choose
>> to start with Pinax:
>>
>> Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification, mailer,
>> announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
>> timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.
>>
>> Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
>> messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
>> photo albums, tagging, etc.
>>
>> CMS project - content management system
>>
>> Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
>> and other stuff.
>>
>> There are other projects as well.
>>
>> Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django projects,
>> it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a website
>> that everyone needs.
>>
>> I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help or
>> would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.
>>
>> I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid web
>> development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
>> Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
>> years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be happy
>> to do that.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>> Burhan Khalid wrote:
>>> Salaam All:
>>>
>>>  I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this list so
>>> I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
>>> latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
>>>
>>>  Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
>>> actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with success
>>> on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that is
>>> required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many apps
>>> to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package the
>>> apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
>>> things others have already tested.
>>>
>>>   If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
>>> pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
>>> everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
>>> Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
>>> compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get with
>>> django:
>>>
>>>  * openid support
>>>  * email verification
>>>  * password management
>>>  * site announcements
>>>  * notification framework
>>>  * user-to-user messaging
>>>  * friend invitation
>>>  * twitter clone
>>>  * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
>>>  * gravatar support
>>>  * interest groups
>>>  * project management features (tasks & issue management)
>>>  * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
>>>  * wikis with markup support
>>>  * blogging
>>>  * bookmark management
>>>  * tagging
>>>  * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
>>>  * photo management
>>>
>>>  All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
>>> create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of websites. So,
>>> if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
>>> home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com. If you are
>>> wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a big user
>>> of pinax.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -- 
>>> Burhan Khalid
>>>
>>> 1. pinaxproject.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> General mailing list
>>> General at oskw.org
>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Thu Oct  1 14:26:57 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:26:57 +0300
Subject: [General] Comprehensive Open Source Python Framework
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0909302248n2711a0e2xc2684e857aff1a81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA89E3D8-4581-485E-90F4-5BF98C5C3837@gmail.com>
	<4AC41F75.4090007@koutbo6.com>
	<70ed7c3e0909302248n2711a0e2xc2684e857aff1a81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC49201.4050303@koutbo6.com>

Thanks for suggesting another option, now I'm having another idea in my
mind I'll send another email since it is off topic.

Majed B. wrote:
> Ahmad,
> 
> If you're willing to do a seminar about that, I'd suggest you contact
> the Kuwait society of engineers and reserve a room from them. They can
> announce the seminar so it may attract even more audience, most likely
> from colleges of science and engineering.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com
> <mailto:ahmad at koutbo6.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Salam,
> 
>     I always wanted to write about Pinax, I just didn't want to be talking
>     to myself in the mailing list. Thanks for showing interest!
> 
>     I've been using Pinax since 2008, the name wasn't Pinax at that time, it
>     was called django-hotclub, and in EuroDjangoCon '09 I met the core
>     developers of Pinax, and joined them in the coding sprints, which was
>     the start of my contribution to the project.
> 
>     Pinax is a great platform to start developing a website in Django, it
>     helps you to focus on your core apps and leave the rest to the reusable
>     apps available in Pinax, there are multiple projects that you can choose
>     to start with Pinax:
> 
>     Basic project - basic requirement for every site, notification, mailer,
>     announcements, email confirmation, local auth, openid, pagination,
>     timezones, basic profiles, ajax validation, etc.
> 
>     Social project - everything in basic project in addition to friends,
>     messaging, microblogging, blogging, wiki, avatars, bookmarks, groups,
>     photo albums, tagging, etc.
> 
>     CMS project - content management system
> 
>     Code project - software project management including tasks, paste,
>     and other stuff.
> 
>     There are other projects as well.
> 
>     Many people are using Pinax basic project in their new django projects,
>     it is really help full to get covered by the basic features of a website
>     that everyone needs.
> 
>     I encourage everyone to give it a try, and if any one needs any help or
>      would like to ask questions, please don't hesitate to drop an email.
> 
>     I've been thinking of doing seminars to share my experience in rapid web
>     development, and enlighten the community with open source technologies
>     Python, Django, and Pinax. And the reasons behind dumping PHP after 7
>     years of love. If there is interest from OSKW community I will be happy
>     to do that.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> 
>     Burhan Khalid wrote:
>     > Salaam All:
>     >
>     >   I know there are a few python fans (including myself) on this
>     list so
>     > I thought I would share some information I got while researching the
>     > latest in Python Frameworks for web development.
>     >
>     >   Everyone is familiar with django -- I think one of our members
>     > actually attended djangocon. Django is great, I've used it with
>     success
>     > on many projects but unfortunately a lot of the functionality that is
>     > required in today's market is not built-in. You have to write many
>     apps
>     > to get some of the common functionality. Of course, if you package the
>     > apps correctly then you can re-use them, but its always nice to use
>     > things others have already tested.
>     >
>     >    If you are a django fan but need something more, then there is
>     > pinax[1]. Pinax is a collection of tested django apps, bundled with
>     > everything you need (Python-wise) except for PIL (Python Imaging
>     > Library). The reason PIL is not included is because PIL needs to be
>     > compiled. What you get with pinax on top of what you already get with
>     > django:
>     >
>     >   * openid support
>     >   * email verification
>     >   * password management
>     >   * site announcements
>     >   * notification framework
>     >   * user-to-user messaging
>     >   * friend invitation
>     >   * twitter clone
>     >   * oembed support ( http://www.oembed.com/ )
>     >   * gravatar support
>     >   * interest groups
>     >   * project management features (tasks & issue management)
>     >   * threaded discussions (ie, "forums")
>     >   * wikis with markup support
>     >   * blogging
>     >   * bookmark management
>     >   * tagging
>     >   * contact import (vCard, Google, Yahoo)
>     >   * photo management
>     >
>     >   All these are packaged apps, pinax just combines them together to
>     > create a platform which you can use to create all kinds of
>     websites. So,
>     > if you only need photo management, you just use that app in your
>     > home-grown django project. The sample site is cloud27.com
>     <http://cloud27.com>. If you are
>     > wondering if pinax is stable enough for your project, NASA is a
>     big user
>     > of pinax.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > --
>     > Burhan Khalid
>     >
>     > 1. pinaxproject.com <http://pinaxproject.com>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > General mailing list
>     > General at oskw.org <mailto:General at oskw.org>
>     > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>     >
> 
>     _______________________________________________
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>     General at oskw.org <mailto:General at oskw.org>
>     http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>       Majed B.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Thu Oct  1 14:59:49 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:59:49 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
Message-ID: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>

Salam,

This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience and
knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
the conference talks.

We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to form
the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con organization.

Event organization includes:
Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
Set event dates and time
Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
Get Sponsorships from interested parties
Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event

Thoughts?

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim



From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 15:33:20 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:33:20 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <D330E71F-8C07-4503-A994-C10504789FF7@gmail.com>

I'm in.

On 1 Oct 2009, at 14:59, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:

> Salam,
>
> This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
> people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience  
> and
> knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
> sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
> event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
> the conference talks.
>
> We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to  
> form
> the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con  
> organization.
>
> Event organization includes:
> Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
> Set event dates and time
> Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
> Get Sponsorships from interested parties
> Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
> Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org




From majedb at gmail.com  Thu Oct  1 15:50:40 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:50:40 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910010550n7d155f64t4284db31e509a31c@mail.gmail.com>

I'd love to pitch in, though my time in the up coming period might be a bit
tight.

I suggest you charge companies a very small fee for entrance and keep it
open for individuals. The fee is 10-20 KD only. It should help in covering
at least 20% of the costs of the event.

I know that many doctors in colleges will be interested. I can spread the
word in engineering & science faculties.
I also have connections with people in NBK & Zain who can promote the idea
and invite top managers.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:

> Salam,
>
> This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
> people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience and
> knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
> sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
> event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
> the conference talks.
>
> We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to form
> the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
> organization.
>
> Event organization includes:
> Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
> Set event dates and time
> Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
> Get Sponsorships from interested parties
> Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
> Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



-- 
      Majed B.
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From kuwait at q8net.com  Thu Oct  1 23:28:19 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <180180.15153.qm@web76110.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>


How about a meeting to discuss this? 


--- On Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59

Salam,

This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience and
knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
the conference talks.

We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to form
the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con organization.

Event organization includes:
Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
Set event dates and time
Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
Get Sponsorships from interested parties
Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event

Thoughts?

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

_______________________________________________
General mailing list
General at oskw.org
http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
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From saleh_rambo at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  1 23:42:45 2009
From: saleh_rambo at hotmail.com (Saleh Al-Saffar)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:42:45 +0000
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <180180.15153.qm@web76110.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl>


Hello,

 

I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science colleges in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and Vice President of DotNet Club.

 

Regards,

Saleh
 


Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
From: kuwait at q8net.com
To: general at oskw.org
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con






How about a meeting to discuss this? 


--- On Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:


From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59


Salam,

This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience and
knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
the conference talks.

We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to form
the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con organization.

Event organization includes:
Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
Set event dates and time
Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
Get Sponsorships from interested parties
Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event

Thoughts?

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

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From talal at alawadhi.com  Fri Oct  2 00:15:00 2009
From: talal at alawadhi.com (Talal AlAwadhi)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:15:00 +0000
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
Message-ID: <330544290-1254431693-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1226629703-@bda223.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>


W'salam Ahmad,

I am happy that finally we brought the topic to public.

As we discussed earlier, starting such an event, keeping in mind the well of continuity to it, should be backed properly with good sponsors from the beginning. At least securing the first year success from all aspects.

An example of what I mean, is getting international firms speakers that can add value to conference. Getting media sponsorship from AlWatan or AlRai for a better exposure. And not to forget the Government support that we can get, either CAIT or KFAS.

Let's keep the discussion on going.

Regards,

------Original Message------
From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
Sender: general-bounces at oskw.org
To: General OpenSource Discussion
ReplyTo: General OpenSource Discussion
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
Sent: Oct 1, 2009 2:59 PM

Salam,

This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their experience and
knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
the conference talks.

We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to form
the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con organization.

Event organization includes:
Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
Set event dates and time
Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
Get Sponsorships from interested parties
Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event

Thoughts?

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

_______________________________________________
General mailing list
General at oskw.org
http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org


From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct  2 19:42:28 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:42:28 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
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From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 16:41:33 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:41:33 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>
	<BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl>
	<4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <FD584F96-F328-4CB1-A3F9-7D95EF8D9F8C@gmail.com>

With regards to KSE, I can get some leverage on that end because my  
company is nothing but a bunch of Engineers, a majority of them are  
KSE members; but before that we need to put a plan in place so we know  
exactly whom to ask for what.

Regards,
--
Burhan Khalid

On 2 Oct 2009, at 19:42, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:

> Dear Ahmad and All,
>
> This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i  
> see many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT  
> community.
>
> Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and  
> International aspects such as having big players in opensource such  
> as Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
>
> As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from  
> both Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as  
> CAIT, KSE, KITS and last but not least as Saleh has mention  
> Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science  
> and Engineering can add great value to the event.
>
> as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start  
> discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested  
> to be a part of the organizing committee.
>
> Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many members  
> to restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this  
> meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Bashar
>
>
>
> Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science  
>> colleges in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student  
>> Chapter and Vice President of DotNet Club.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saleh
>>
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
>> From: kuwait at q8net.com
>> To: general at oskw.org
>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>
>>
>> How about a meeting to discuss this?
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>> Subject: [General] OSKW Con
>> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>> Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
>>
>> Salam,
>>
>> This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
>> people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their  
>> experience and
>> knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
>> sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
>> event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience  
>> through
>> the conference talks.
>>
>> We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us, to  
>> form
>> the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con  
>> organization.
>>
>> Event organization includes:
>> Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
>> Set event dates and time
>> Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
>> Get Sponsorships from interested parties
>> Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
>> Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage  
>> limits. Check it out.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Sat Oct  3 18:57:33 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:57:33 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>	<BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl>
	<4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>

Glad to see that much of interest from OSKW community to OSKW Con idea.

Discussing the details in meeting as Bu Rashed suggested is the next
thing to do.

If anyone in the list is interested to participate in organizing OSKW
Con, kindly send the dates of availability for the times between 7:30PM
to 10:00PM in the following format with A for available, N/A for not
available:

Sat Oct 10: A
Sun Oct 11: A
Mon Oct 12: A
Tue Oct 13: A
Wed Oct 14: A
Thu Oct 15: N/A
Fri Oct 16: N/A
Sat Oct 17: A
Sun Oct 18: A
Mon Oct 19: A
Tue Oct 20: A
Wed Oct 21: A
Thu Oct 22: N/A
Fri Oct 23: N/A
Sat Oct 24: A
Sun Oct 25: A

The meeting should be at least 1 week away form today to give a chance
for everyone to prepare ideas, and reply to this email, and get others
involved.

Keep the discussion going in the mailing list.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> Dear Ahmad and All,
> 
> 
> This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i see
> many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT community.
> 
> 
> Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and
> International aspects such as having big players in opensource such as
> Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
> 
> 
> As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from both
> Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as CAIT
> <http://www.cait.gov.kw>, KSE <http://www.kse.org.kw>, KITS
> <http://www.kits.org.kw> and last but not least as Saleh has mention
> Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science and
> Engineering can add great value to the event.
> 
> 
> as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start
> discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested to
> be a part of the organizing committee.
> 
> 
> Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many members to
> restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this
> meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bashar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science colleges
>> in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and
>> Vice President of DotNet Club.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Saleh
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
>> From: kuwait at q8net.com
>> To: general at oskw.org
>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>
>>
>> How about a meeting to discuss this?
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>>     Subject: [General] OSKW Con
>>     To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>>     Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
>>
>>     Salam,
>>
>>     This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
>>     people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their
>>     experience and
>>     knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
>>     sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
>>     event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
>>     the conference talks.
>>
>>     We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us,
>>     to form
>>     the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
>>     organization.
>>
>>     Event organization includes:
>>     Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
>>     Set event dates and time
>>     Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
>>     Get Sponsorships from interested parties
>>     Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
>>     Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>>
>>     Thoughts?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     General mailing list
>>     General at oskw.org <http:///mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>>     http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits.
>> Check it out.
>> <http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>   
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org



From kuwait at q8net.com  Sat Oct  3 21:37:15 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 02:37:15 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <244974.53359.qm@web76104.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>

Salam, evening time is fine for me, the following would be roughly my available days during October:

Sat Oct 10: A
Sun Oct 11: N/A
Mon Oct 12: N/A
Tue Oct 13: N/A
Wed Oct 14: N/A
Thu Oct 15: N/A
Fri Oct 16: A
Sat Oct 17: A
Sun Oct 18: A
Mon Oct 19: N/A
Tue Oct 20: A
Wed Oct 21: A
Thu Oct 22: A
Fri Oct 23: N/A
Sat Oct 24: N/A
Sun Oct 25: N/A
Mon Oct 26: N/A
Tue Oct 27: A
Wed Oct 28: A
Thu Oct 29: A
Fri Oct 30: A

Looking forward to meet you all again.

--- On Sat, 3/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Saturday, 3 October, 2009, 18:57

Glad to see that much of interest from OSKW community to OSKW Con idea.

Discussing the details in meeting as Bu Rashed suggested is the next
thing to do.

If anyone in the list is interested to participate in organizing OSKW
Con, kindly send the dates of availability for the times between 7:30PM
to 10:00PM in the following format with A for available, N/A for not
available:

Sat Oct 10: A
Sun Oct 11: A
Mon Oct 12: A
Tue Oct 13: A
Wed Oct 14: A
Thu Oct 15: N/A
Fri Oct 16: N/A
Sat Oct 17: A
Sun Oct 18: A
Mon Oct 19: A
Tue Oct 20: A
Wed Oct 21: A
Thu Oct 22: N/A
Fri Oct 23: N/A
Sat Oct 24: A
Sun Oct 25: A

The meeting should be at least 1 week away form today to give a chance
for everyone to prepare ideas, and reply to this email, and get others
involved.

Keep the discussion going in the mailing list.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> Dear Ahmad and All,
> 
> 
> This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i see
> many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT community.
> 
> 
> Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and
> International aspects such as having big players in opensource such as
> Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
> 
> 
> As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from both
> Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as CAIT
> <http://www.cait.gov.kw>, KSE <http://www.kse.org.kw>, KITS
> <http://www.kits.org.kw> and last but not least as Saleh has mention
> Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science and
> Engineering can add great value to the event.
> 
> 
> as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start
> discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested to
> be a part of the organizing committee.
> 
> 
> Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many members to
> restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this
> meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bashar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
> 
>> Hello,
>>? 
>> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science colleges
>> in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and
>> Vice President of DotNet Club.
>>? 
>> Regards,
>> Saleh
>>? 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
>> From: kuwait at q8net.com
>> To: general at oskw.org
>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>
>>
>> How about a meeting to discuss this?
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>? ???From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>>? ???Subject: [General] OSKW Con
>>? ???To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>>? ???Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
>>
>>? ???Salam,
>>
>>? ???This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
>>? ???people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their
>>? ???experience and
>>? ???knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
>>? ???sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
>>? ???event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
>>? ???the conference talks.
>>
>>? ???We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us,
>>? ???to form
>>? ???the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
>>? ???organization.
>>
>>? ???Event organization includes:
>>? ???Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
>>? ???Set event dates and time
>>? ???Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
>>? ???Get Sponsorships from interested parties
>>? ???Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
>>? ???Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>>
>>? ???Thoughts?
>>
>>? ???Regards,
>>
>>? ???Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>>? ???_______________________________________________
>>? ???General mailing list
>>? ???General at oskw.org <http:///mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>>? ???http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits.
>> Check it out.
>> <http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>???
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org

_______________________________________________
General mailing list
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From majedb at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 22:45:26 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:45:26 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <244974.53359.qm@web76104.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>
	<244974.53359.qm@web76104.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910031245w4233e607od3cbdf403dda77d@mail.gmail.com>

I'm free, unless something urgent comes up.

Sat Oct 10: A
Sun Oct 11: A
Mon Oct 12: A
Tue Oct 13: A
Wed Oct 14: A
Thu Oct 15: A
Fri Oct 16: A
Sat Oct 17: A
Sun Oct 18: A
Mon Oct 19: A
Tue Oct 20: A
Wed Oct 21: A
Thu Oct 22: A
Fri Oct 23: A
Sat Oct 24: A
Sun Oct 25: A


On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com> wrote:

>  Salam, evening time is fine for me, the following would be roughly my
> available days during October:
>
> Sat Oct 10: A
> Sun Oct 11: N/A
> Mon Oct 12: N/A
> Tue Oct 13: N/A
> Wed Oct 14: N/A
> Thu Oct 15: N/A
> Fri Oct 16: A
> Sat Oct 17: A
> Sun Oct 18: A
> Mon Oct 19: N/A
> Tue Oct 20: A
> Wed Oct 21: A
> Thu Oct 22: A
> Fri Oct 23: N/A
> Sat Oct 24: N/A
> Sun Oct 25: N/A
> Mon Oct 26: N/A
> Tue Oct 27: A
> Wed Oct 28: A
> Thu Oct 29: A
> Fri Oct 30: A
>
> Looking forward to meet you all again.
>
> --- On *Sat, 3/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Saturday, 3 October, 2009, 18:57
>
>
> Glad to see that much of interest from OSKW community to OSKW Con idea.
>
> Discussing the details in meeting as Bu Rashed suggested is the next
> thing to do.
>
> If anyone in the list is interested to participate in organizing OSKW
> Con, kindly send the dates of availability for the times between 7:30PM
> to 10:00PM in the following format with A for available, N/A for not
> available:
>
> Sat Oct 10: A
> Sun Oct 11: A
> Mon Oct 12: A
> Tue Oct 13: A
> Wed Oct 14: A
> Thu Oct 15: N/A
> Fri Oct 16: N/A
> Sat Oct 17: A
> Sun Oct 18: A
> Mon Oct 19: A
> Tue Oct 20: A
> Wed Oct 21: A
> Thu Oct 22: N/A
> Fri Oct 23: N/A
> Sat Oct 24: A
> Sun Oct 25: A
>
> The meeting should be at least 1 week away form today to give a chance
> for everyone to prepare ideas, and reply to this email, and get others
> involved.
>
> Keep the discussion going in the mailing list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> > Dear Ahmad and All,
> >
> >
> > This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i see
> > many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT community.
> >
> >
> > Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and
> > International aspects such as having big players in opensource such as
> > Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
> >
> >
> > As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from both
> > Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as CAIT
> > <http://www.cait.gov.kw>, KSE <http://www.kse.org.kw>, KITS
> > <http://www.kits.org.kw> and last but not least as Saleh has mention
> > Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science and
> > Engineering can add great value to the event.
> >
> >
> > as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start
> > discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested to
> > be a part of the organizing committee.
> >
> >
> > Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many members to
> > restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this
> > meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Bashar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science colleges
> >> in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and
> >> Vice President of DotNet Club.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Saleh
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
> >> From: kuwait at q8net.com <http://mc/compose?to=kuwait at q8net.com>
> >> To: general at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=general at oskw.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> >>
> >>
> >> How about a meeting to discuss this?
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On *Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com<http://mc/compose?to=ahmad at koutbo6.com>>/*
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com<http://mc/compose?to=ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> >
> >>     Subject: [General] OSKW Con
> >>     To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org<http://mc/compose?to=general at oskw.org>
> >
> >>     Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
> >>
> >>     Salam,
> >>
> >>     This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
> >>     people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their
> >>     experience and
> >>     knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
> >>     sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
> >>     event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience
> through
> >>     the conference talks.
> >>
> >>     We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us,
> >>     to form
> >>     the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
> >>     organization.
> >>
> >>     Event organization includes:
> >>     Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
> >>     Set event dates and time
> >>     Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
> >>     Get Sponsorships from interested parties
> >>     Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
> >>     Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
> >>
> >>     Thoughts?
> >>
> >>     Regards,
> >>
> >>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> >>
> >>     _______________________________________________
> >>     General mailing list
> >>     General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org> <
> http:///mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> >>     http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits.
> >> Check it out.
> >> <
> http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
> >
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> General mailing list
> >> General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>


-- 
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From talal at alawadhi.com  Sat Oct  3 22:48:08 2009
From: talal at alawadhi.com (Talal AlAwadhi)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:48:08 +0000
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>	<BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl><4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net><4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <26477291-1254599281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-424290836-@bda223.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>

Am available

Best regards,


-----Original Message-----
From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:57:33 
To: General OpenSource Discussion<general at oskw.org>
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con

Glad to see that much of interest from OSKW community to OSKW Con idea.

Discussing the details in meeting as Bu Rashed suggested is the next
thing to do.

If anyone in the list is interested to participate in organizing OSKW
Con, kindly send the dates of availability for the times between 7:30PM
to 10:00PM in the following format with A for available, N/A for not
available:

Sat Oct 10: A
Sun Oct 11: A
Mon Oct 12: A
Tue Oct 13: A
Wed Oct 14: A
Thu Oct 15: N/A
Fri Oct 16: N/A
Sat Oct 17: A
Sun Oct 18: A
Mon Oct 19: A
Tue Oct 20: A
Wed Oct 21: A
Thu Oct 22: N/A
Fri Oct 23: N/A
Sat Oct 24: A
Sun Oct 25: A

The meeting should be at least 1 week away form today to give a chance
for everyone to prepare ideas, and reply to this email, and get others
involved.

Keep the discussion going in the mailing list.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> Dear Ahmad and All,
> 
> 
> This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i see
> many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT community.
> 
> 
> Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and
> International aspects such as having big players in opensource such as
> Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
> 
> 
> As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from both
> Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as CAIT
> <http://www.cait.gov.kw>, KSE <http://www.kse.org.kw>, KITS
> <http://www.kits.org.kw> and last but not least as Saleh has mention
> Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science and
> Engineering can add great value to the event.
> 
> 
> as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start
> discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested to
> be a part of the organizing committee.
> 
> 
> Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many members to
> restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this
> meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bashar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science colleges
>> in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and
>> Vice President of DotNet Club.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Saleh
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
>> From: kuwait at q8net.com
>> To: general at oskw.org
>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>
>>
>> How about a meeting to discuss this?
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>>     Subject: [General] OSKW Con
>>     To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>>     Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
>>
>>     Salam,
>>
>>     This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that gathers
>>     people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their
>>     experience and
>>     knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source technologies. I'm
>>     sure many of us could help either by participating in organizing the
>>     event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience through
>>     the conference talks.
>>
>>     We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us,
>>     to form
>>     the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
>>     organization.
>>
>>     Event organization includes:
>>     Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
>>     Set event dates and time
>>     Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
>>     Get Sponsorships from interested parties
>>     Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
>>     Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>>
>>     Thoughts?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>     General mailing list
>>     General at oskw.org <http:///mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>>     http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits.
>> Check it out.
>> <http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>   
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>_______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org

_______________________________________________
General mailing list
General at oskw.org
http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org

From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Sat Oct  3 22:51:35 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:51:35 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <26477291-1254599281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-424290836-@bda223.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
References: <4AC499B5.2040201@koutbo6.com>	<BAY143-W1921A18BF37C1CCA8ED28490D30@phx.gbl><4AC62D74.8080402@kuwaitnet.net><4AC7746D.5070906@koutbo6.com>
	<26477291-1254599281-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-424290836-@bda223.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <37B6FC3E-E8C3-4523-9058-3470E02A574A@gmail.com>

Same, as long as its in the evenings and avoiding weekends (Thus. /  
Fri.)

Regards
--
Burhan Khalid

On 3 Oct 2009, at 22:48, Talal AlAwadhi wrote:

> Am available
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:57:33
> To: General OpenSource Discussion<general at oskw.org>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>
> Glad to see that much of interest from OSKW community to OSKW Con  
> idea.
>
> Discussing the details in meeting as Bu Rashed suggested is the next
> thing to do.
>
> If anyone in the list is interested to participate in organizing OSKW
> Con, kindly send the dates of availability for the times between  
> 7:30PM
> to 10:00PM in the following format with A for available, N/A for not
> available:
>
> Sat Oct 10: A
> Sun Oct 11: A
> Mon Oct 12: A
> Tue Oct 13: A
> Wed Oct 14: A
> Thu Oct 15: N/A
> Fri Oct 16: N/A
> Sat Oct 17: A
> Sun Oct 18: A
> Mon Oct 19: A
> Tue Oct 20: A
> Wed Oct 21: A
> Thu Oct 22: N/A
> Fri Oct 23: N/A
> Sat Oct 24: A
> Sun Oct 25: A
>
> The meeting should be at least 1 week away form today to give a chance
> for everyone to prepare ideas, and reply to this email, and get others
> involved.
>
> Keep the discussion going in the mailing list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>> Dear Ahmad and All,
>>
>>
>> This is great opportunity to organize such event and Masha'allah i  
>> see
>> many are interested to participate from all angles of the IT  
>> community.
>>
>>
>> Additionally having it surely needs a push from both Local and
>> International aspects such as having big players in opensource such  
>> as
>> Red Hat when it come to Linux for example.
>>
>>
>> As Talal has mentioned we do need Media sponsor and support from both
>> Government and NGOs (non-government organizations) such as CAIT
>> <http://www.cait.gov.kw>, KSE <http://www.kse.org.kw>, KITS
>> <http://www.kits.org.kw> and last but not least as Saleh has mention
>> Universities! i do believe that both Students and Staff in Science  
>> and
>> Engineering can add great value to the event.
>>
>>
>> as BuRashed (Faisal) has mentioned lets have a meeting and start
>> discussing it after few emails brainstorming to see whom interested  
>> to
>> be a part of the organizing committee.
>>
>>
>> Speaking of meetings, i have been asked many times from many  
>> members to
>> restart our weekly meeting that we used to have a KITS maybe this
>> meeting can be a restart of the weekly or monthly gathering :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Bashar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Saleh Al-Saffar wrote, On 10/01/2009 11:42 PM:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to help promoting it to Engineering and Science  
>>> colleges
>>> in Kuwait University as I'm the chairman of ACM Student Chapter and
>>> Vice President of DotNet Club.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Saleh
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 04:28:19 +0800
>>> From: kuwait at q8net.com
>>> To: general at oskw.org
>>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>>
>>>
>>> How about a meeting to discuss this?
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 1/10/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>>>    Subject: [General] OSKW Con
>>>    To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>>>    Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 14:59
>>>
>>>    Salam,
>>>
>>>    This is a call for organizing OSKW Con, a yearly event that  
>>> gathers
>>>    people interested in Open Source in Kuwait to share their
>>>    experience and
>>>    knowledge, and encourage others to use Open Source  
>>> technologies. I'm
>>>    sure many of us could help either by participating in  
>>> organizing the
>>>    event or by sharing their open source knowledge and experience  
>>> through
>>>    the conference talks.
>>>
>>>    We could start from this mailing list, and the people around us,
>>>    to form
>>>    the organizing committee that will be responsible for OSKW Con
>>>    organization.
>>>
>>>    Event organization includes:
>>>    Call for talk proposals and accept/deny talks
>>>    Set event dates and time
>>>    Set the Location and prepare the equipments for the event
>>>    Get Sponsorships from interested parties
>>>    Promote the event to other organizations to invite people
>>>    Cooperate with Media for PR work and to cover the event
>>>
>>>    Thoughts?
>>>
>>>    Regards,
>>>
>>>    Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>    General mailing list
>>>    General at oskw.org <http:///mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>>>    http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> Check it out.
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> General at oskw.org
>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sat Oct  3 22:59:37 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:59:37 +0000
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
Message-ID: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>

Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct

For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays

Sent on the go via BlackBerry



From majedb at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 19:11:24 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:11:24 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910040911l476115bfj806e2cdccb760734@mail.gmail.com>

The Kuwait Entrepreneurs group on facebook has about 962 members
(http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=36240561472). I'm sure we can
reach out to them and have them join us.

I'm a member in the group, so I can post to them. It's an open group,
so if you're not in, you can easily join.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>
> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>
> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org



--
? ? ? Majed B.



From ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 09:16:41 2009
From: ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com (A Alkhaled)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0910040911l476115bfj806e2cdccb760734@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
	<70ed7c3e0910040911l476115bfj806e2cdccb760734@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <308831.71440.qm@web36405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Excellent move guys.. 

but don't u guys think that OSKW should be registered @ Ministry of Social Affairs & Work as an organization first? Or is OSKW under the Kuwait IT Society umbrella?


 <span style="font-weight:bold;">
</span>





________________________________
From: Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com>
To: General OpenSource Discussion <general at oskw.org>
Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 7:11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con

The Kuwait Entrepreneurs group on facebook has about 962 members
(http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=36240561472). I'm sure we can
reach out to them and have them join us.

I'm a member in the group, so I can post to them. It's an open group,
so if you're not in, you can easily join.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>
> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>
> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org



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From kuwait at q8net.com  Tue Oct  6 10:00:26 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:00:26 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <308831.71440.qm@web36405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <900936.51769.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>


Actually i had this in mind since the 90ies for an Open Source official social society but like you mentioned it will almost definitely end up under KITs umbrella. The ministry in no need for budget shedding considering the economical atmosphere, but who knows, it might happen and one day we can meet in OSKW headquarters. 



--- On Tue, 6/10/09, A Alkhaled <ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: A Alkhaled <ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 9:16

Excellent move guys.. 

but don't u guys think that OSKW should be registered @ Ministry of Social Affairs & Work as an organization first? Or is OSKW under the Kuwait IT Society umbrella?

?<span style="font-weight:bold;">
  </span>


From: Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com>
To: General OpenSource Discussion <general at oskw.org>
Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 7:11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con


The Kuwait Entrepreneurs group on facebook has about 962 members
(http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=36240561472). I'm sure we can
reach out to them and have them join us.

I'm a member in the group, so I can post to them. It's an open group,
so if you're not in, you can easily join.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>
> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>
> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org



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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Tue Oct  6 10:10:34 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:10:34 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <308831.71440.qm@web36405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Fri Oct  9 04:53:32 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:53:32 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>

Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
for OSKW Con meeting is the following:

Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
Location: KITS
Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK

I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
- General discussion of OSKW Con
- Form an organizing committee
- Suggestions
- Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
- Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
> 
> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
> 
> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 



From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct  9 06:24:43 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:24:43 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
	<4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Mon Oct 12 21:56:17 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:56:17 +0300
Subject: [General] Android to overtake iPhone in 2012
Message-ID: <4AD37BD1.9040706@kuwaitnet.net>

"Google?s Android will have more than quadrupled its market share by the 
end of 2012, market watcher Gartner has claimed. But Symbian looks set 
to remain the dominant smartphone OS for several years to come.

Android?s market share stood at a paltry 1.6 per cent during Q1 2009, 
but will grow to 14.5 per cent by the time Q4 2012 rolls around, Gartner 
forecast, based on an estimated 522m smartphones shipping worldwide 
during the period.

As a result, Android will move from its current position as the sixth 
most popular operating system for smartphones to become the second most 
popular, Gartner said.

The main reason for Android?s market share growth will, Gartner VP Ken 
Dulaney told website AppleInsider, be because ?unlike Apple, they 
[Google] license their OS to multiple OEMs?.

Dulaney said many handset makers are betting their futures on Android, 
while Apple is just one company.

Speaking of Apple, its share of the smartphone OS market will also grow 
- but only from 10.8 per cent to 13.7 per cent, Gartner said.

Symbian will remain the most popular OS. However, its market share will 
drop from 49.3 per cent during Q1 2009 to 39 per cent by Q4 2012.

Research in Motion?s BlackBerry OS is currently the second most popular 
handset OS, Gartner said, with a Q1 2009 market share of 19.9 per cent. 
But it will slip to fifth place by Q4 2012 with market share of just 
12.5 per cent.

Windows Mobile's share will grow from 10.3 per cent to 12.8 per cent 
during the same quarters, Gartner added, which will see it remain as the 
fourth most popular phone-based OS. ?"

originally from 
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/10/09/android_2012_gartner/



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From bashar.abdullah at gmail.com  Mon Oct 12 21:58:02 2009
From: bashar.abdullah at gmail.com (bashar abdullah)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:58:02 +0300
Subject: [General] Android to overtake iPhone in 2012
In-Reply-To: <4AD37BD1.9040706@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AD37BD1.9040706@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <862afa530910121158w5564282bs5bd8e8dcb34a4037@mail.gmail.com>

Something funny about Gartner is, every company under certain specific
criteria has their product as #1  from Gartner that I stopped caring about
it :P

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net>wrote:

> "Google?s Android will have more than quadrupled its market share by the
> end of 2012, market watcher Gartner has claimed. But Symbian looks set to
> remain the dominant smartphone OS for several years to come.
>
> Android?s market share stood at a paltry 1.6 per cent during Q1 2009, but
> will grow to 14.5 per cent by the time Q4 2012 rolls around, Gartner
> forecast, based on an estimated 522m smartphones shipping worldwide during
> the period.
>
> As a result, Android will move from its current position as the sixth most
> popular operating system for smartphones to become the second most popular,
> Gartner said.
>
> The main reason for Android?s market share growth will, Gartner VP Ken
> Dulaney told website AppleInsider, be because ?unlike Apple, they [Google]
> license their OS to multiple OEMs?.
>
> Dulaney said many handset makers are betting their futures on Android,
> while Apple is just one company.
>
> Speaking of Apple, its share of the smartphone OS market will also grow -
> but only from 10.8 per cent to 13.7 per cent, Gartner said.
>
> Symbian will remain the most popular OS. However, its market share will
> drop from 49.3 per cent during Q1 2009 to 39 per cent by Q4 2012.
>
> Research in Motion?s BlackBerry OS is currently the second most popular
> handset OS, Gartner said, with a Q1 2009 market share of 19.9 per cent. But
> it will slip to fifth place by Q4 2012 with market share of just 12.5 per
> cent.
>
> Windows Mobile's share will grow from 10.3 per cent to 12.8 per cent during
> the same quarters, Gartner added, which will see it remain as the fourth
> most popular phone-based OS. ?"
>
> originally from
> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/10/09/android_2012_gartner/
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 09:34:13 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:34:13 +0300
Subject: [General] Android to overtake iPhone in 2012
In-Reply-To: <862afa530910121158w5564282bs5bd8e8dcb34a4037@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AD37BD1.9040706@kuwaitnet.net>
	<862afa530910121158w5564282bs5bd8e8dcb34a4037@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FD9FE3EF-09F4-4B17-94C3-25C4EE984A34@gmail.com>


On 12 Oct 2009, at 21:58, bashar abdullah wrote:

> Something funny about Gartner is, every company under certain  
> specific criteria has their product as #1  from Gartner that I  
> stopped caring about it :P

So true. Its nice to dream about it, but it remains to be seen.




From majedb at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 15:41:17 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:41:17 +0300
Subject: [General] Wanted: Web App Coder
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910130541v5bae5698w3ce8a25aefec9092@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

A friend of mine wants a custom web app (its concept is similar to
what q8car.com is doing).

PHP is preferred but not mandatory.

If anyone is free, kindly email me.
-- 
       Majed B.



From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 20 03:48:34 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:48:34 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4A90A9AF.4000303@koutbo6.com>
References: <560471.6349.qm@web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071737s139d9cccp8a51a9af7728aa5@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071745i7b62dc74t22904afee2073cf2@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071807t6d39c0eaga995a5fbe06a2d42@mail.gmail.com>	<4A7CD476.2050506@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071829u7bdf0f59ta0167285814100ad@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908081124i10b6d7b4pe1af96b92fdf4207@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150702u6d9aaec2v6cfaf6382e93d1bd@mail.gmail.com>	<4A86C6B4.3030604@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150754j11ff4ad0w6dbdd5339afeee6c@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908220514q6280aa7aub697eebacb48e8a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A90A9AF.4000303@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <4ADD08E2.4040004@koutbo6.com>

Salam,

I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying from the
following options:
Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html

Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html

Siemens Gigaset SL785
http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html

Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim



From sabah at techsys.net  Tue Oct 20 10:00:18 2009
From: sabah at techsys.net (Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:00:18 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4ADD08E2.4040004@koutbo6.com>
References: <560471.6349.qm@web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071737s139d9cccp8a51a9af7728aa5@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071745i7b62dc74t22904afee2073cf2@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071807t6d39c0eaga995a5fbe06a2d42@mail.gmail.com>	<4A7CD476.2050506@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071829u7bdf0f59ta0167285814100ad@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908081124i10b6d7b4pe1af96b92fdf4207@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150702u6d9aaec2v6cfaf6382e93d1bd@mail.gmail.com>	<4A86C6B4.3030604@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150754j11ff4ad0w6dbdd5339afeee6c@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908220514q6280aa7aub697eebacb48e8a0@mail.gmail.com>	<4A90A9AF.4000303@koutbo6.com>
	<4ADD08E2.4040004@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <4ADD6002.5090602@techsys.net>

Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
It is cheaper and more readily available.

-- 


Best Regards,

============================

Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah

General Manager

Technical Systems Est.

sabah at techsys.net

www.techsys.net

============================ 



Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> Salam,
>
> I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying from the
> following options:
> Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>
> Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>
> Siemens Gigaset SL785
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>
> Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>   



From kuwait at q8net.com  Tue Oct 20 17:02:33 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:33 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4ADD6002.5090602@techsys.net>
Message-ID: <406986.99074.qm@web76113.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>

Echo problems eliminated with SIP connected hardware phones internally. If the price is not an issue, i'd go for Polycom phones.


--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net> wrote:

From: Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net>
Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:00 AM

Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
It is cheaper and more readily available.

-- 


Best Regards,

============================

Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah

General Manager

Technical Systems Est.

sabah at techsys.net

www.techsys.net

============================ 



Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> Salam,
>
> I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying from the
> following options:
> Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>
> Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>
> Siemens Gigaset SL785
> http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>
> Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 20 18:29:06 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:29:06 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4ADD6002.5090602@techsys.net>
References: <560471.6349.qm@web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071737s139d9cccp8a51a9af7728aa5@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071745i7b62dc74t22904afee2073cf2@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071807t6d39c0eaga995a5fbe06a2d42@mail.gmail.com>	<4A7CD476.2050506@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071829u7bdf0f59ta0167285814100ad@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908081124i10b6d7b4pe1af96b92fdf4207@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150702u6d9aaec2v6cfaf6382e93d1bd@mail.gmail.com>	<4A86C6B4.3030604@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150754j11ff4ad0w6dbdd5339afeee6c@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908220514q6280aa7aub697eebacb48e8a0@mail.gmail.com>	<4A90A9AF.4000303@koutbo6.com>	<4ADD08E2.4040004@koutbo6.com>
	<4ADD6002.5090602@techsys.net>
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I didn't know such a thing already exists, any recommendation for an ATA
brands? what are the prices? are they available in Kuwait? are they
reliable? my main concern is that I dont want the device to fail
(unregister), I've heard this problem happening in some VoIP devices.

Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah wrote:
> Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
> It is cheaper and more readily available.
> 



From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 20 19:38:19 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:38:19 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <406986.99074.qm@web76113.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <406986.99074.qm@web76113.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ADDE77B.7000300@koutbo6.com>

I dont think Polycom have cordless IP phones. correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
> Echo problems eliminated with SIP connected hardware phones internally.
> If the price is not an issue, i'd go for Polycom phones.
> 
> 
> --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah /<sabah at techsys.net>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Eng.. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net>
>     Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
>     To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>     Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:00 AM
> 
>     Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
>     It is cheaper and more readily available.
> 
>     -- 
> 
> 
>     Best Regards,
> 
>     ============================
> 
>     Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah
> 
>     General Manager
> 
>     Technical Systems Est.
> 
>     sabah at techsys.net </mc/compose?to=sabah at techsys.net>
> 
>     www.techsys.net
> 
>     ============================
> 
> 
> 
>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>     > Salam,
>     >
>     > I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying
>     from the
>     > following options:
>     > Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
>     >
>     http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>     >
>     > Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
>     > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>     >
>     > Siemens Gigaset SL785
>     > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>     >
>     > Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > General mailing list
>     > General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>     > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>     >
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From majedb at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 20:16:07 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:16:07 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4ADDE77B.7000300@koutbo6.com>
References: <406986.99074.qm@web76113.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
	<4ADDE77B.7000300@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910201016v1a022079s687bd5163a188967@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not if I understand Eng. Sabah's suggestion, but I think he meant
to buy a normal cordless phone (Panasonic) and hook it to the FXS
port.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
> I dont think Polycom have cordless IP phones. correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
>> Echo problems eliminated with SIP connected hardware phones internally.
>> If the price is not an issue, i'd go for Polycom phones.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah /<sabah at techsys.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> ? ? From: Eng.. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net>
>> ? ? Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
>> ? ? To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>> ? ? Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:00 AM
>>
>> ? ? Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
>> ? ? It is cheaper and more readily available.
>>
>> ? ? --
>>
>>
>> ? ? Best Regards,
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>> ? ? Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah
>>
>> ? ? General Manager
>>
>> ? ? Technical Systems Est.
>>
>> ? ? sabah at techsys.net </mc/compose?to=sabah at techsys.net>
>>
>> ? ? www.techsys.net
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ? Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> ? ? > Salam,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying
>> ? ? from the
>> ? ? > following options:
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset SL785
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Regards,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > _______________________________________________
>> ? ? > General mailing list
>> ? ? > General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>> ? ? > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? >
>>
>> ? ? _______________________________________________
>> ? ? General mailing list
>> ? ? General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>> ? ? http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw..org
>> ? ? <http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 20 21:24:33 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (=?utf-8?B?YWhtYWRAa291dGJvNi5jb20=?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:24:33 +0300 (AST)
Subject: [General] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Re=3A__VoIP_For_Home_Usage?=
Message-ID: <20091020182433.C656C21284AF@vs2-rsm2.koutbo6.com>



----- Forwarded message -----
From: "ahmad at koutbo6.com" <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 20, 2009 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
To: "Majed B." <majedb at gmail.com>

ATA is an external fxs and SIP client, I have fxs module but I failed to get it working, when I call the fxs sfr the phone rings once and when I pick it up I hear some kind of noise, given that I have connected D power cable to the tdm400 card

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Majed B." <majedb at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 20, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>

I'm not if I understand Eng. Sabah's suggestion, but I think he meant
to buy a normal cordless phone (Panasonic) and hook it to the FXS
port.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
> I dont think Polycom have cordless IP phones. correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
>> Echo problems eliminated with SIP connected hardware phones internally.
>> If the price is not an issue, i'd go for Polycom phones.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah /<sabah at techsys.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> ? ? From: Eng.. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net>
>> ? ? Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
>> ? ? To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>> ? ? Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:00 AM
>>
>> ? ? Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
>> ? ? It is cheaper and more readily available.
>>
>> ? ? --
>>
>>
>> ? ? Best Regards,
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>> ? ? Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah
>>
>> ? ? General Manager
>>
>> ? ? Technical Systems Est.
>>
>> ? ? sabah at techsys.net </mc/compose?to=sabah at techsys.net>
>>
>> ? ? www.techsys.net
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ? Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> ? ? > Salam,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying
>> ? ? from the
>> ? ? > following options:
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset SL785
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Regards,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > _______________________________________________
>> ? ? > General mailing list
>> ? ? > General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>> ? ? > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? >
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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From kuwait at q8net.com  Tue Oct 20 22:30:20 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:30:20 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0910201016v1a022079s687bd5163a188967@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <834641.677.qm@web76108.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>


An example for what Eng. Sabah suggested would be Linksys PAP2 or Cisco 182 ATA and maybe D-Link devices.


--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 8:16 PM

I'm not if I understand Eng. Sabah's suggestion, but I think he meant
to buy a normal cordless phone (Panasonic) and hook it to the FXS
port.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
> I dont think Polycom have cordless IP phones. correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
>> Echo problems eliminated with SIP connected hardware phones internally.
>> If the price is not an issue, i'd go for Polycom phones.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 10/20/09, Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah /<sabah at techsys.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> ? ? From: Eng.. Sabah Al-Sabah <sabah at techsys.net>
>> ? ? Subject: Re: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
>> ? ? To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>> ? ? Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:00 AM
>>
>> ? ? Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
>> ? ? It is cheaper and more readily available.
>>
>> ? ? --
>>
>>
>> ? ? Best Regards,
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>> ? ? Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah
>>
>> ? ? General Manager
>>
>> ? ? Technical Systems Est.
>>
>> ? ? sabah at techsys.net </mc/compose?to=sabah at techsys.net>
>>
>> ? ? www.techsys.net
>>
>> ? ? ============================
>>
>>
>>
>> ? ? Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> ? ? > Salam,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > I'm looking for a cordless IP phone, and I'm considering buying
>> ? ? from the
>> ? ? > following options:
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset A580 IP
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_160891_rarnrnrnrn_variation%253A-5_pageType%253ADescription_imagePos%253A0,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset S675 IP
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_139193_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Siemens Gigaset SL785
>> ? ? > http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq_en_0_164077_rarnrnrnrn,00.html
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Any idea how good is Siemens Gigaset in VoIP?
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Regards,
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? > _______________________________________________
>> ? ? > General mailing list
>> ? ? > General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>> ? ? > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> ? ? >
>> ? ? >
>>
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From sabah at techsys.net  Wed Oct 21 08:35:55 2009
From: sabah at techsys.net (Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:35:55 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
In-Reply-To: <4ADDD742.6050808@koutbo6.com>
References: <560471.6349.qm@web76106.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071737s139d9cccp8a51a9af7728aa5@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071745i7b62dc74t22904afee2073cf2@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071807t6d39c0eaga995a5fbe06a2d42@mail.gmail.com>	<4A7CD476.2050506@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908071829u7bdf0f59ta0167285814100ad@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908081124i10b6d7b4pe1af96b92fdf4207@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150702u6d9aaec2v6cfaf6382e93d1bd@mail.gmail.com>	<4A86C6B4.3030604@koutbo6.com>	<70ed7c3e0908150754j11ff4ad0w6dbdd5339afeee6c@mail.gmail.com>	<70ed7c3e0908220514q6280aa7aub697eebacb48e8a0@mail.gmail.com>	<4A90A9AF.4000303@koutbo6.com>	<4ADD08E2.4040004@koutbo6.com>	<4ADD6002.5090602@techsys.net>
	<4ADDD742.6050808@koutbo6.com>
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I think the added advantage of the solution that I suggested earlier, is 
that unlike the Wi-Fi IP Phone, the ATA would be registering reliably 
since it is wired connected to the network even if the the analogue 
cordless phone is out of coverage!


By the way, we (Technical Systems Est) the distributor for Planet in 
Kuwait can (Theoretically) offer VOIP products, but MOC (Ministry of 
Corruption) require a prior written approval (where you testify that you 
will not use it for International calls)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
even though they have IP phones on their desks!!!!!. Not to mention all 
ITSPs offer termination to Kuwait!! and MOCcan easily know, if they 
want, who is offering the termination service to those ITSPs.

You may go to our web site www.techsys.net and click on Planet logo.
or see below some of Planet VOIP products.

Wi-Fi Phones

VIP-191 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3771> 	
VIP-191 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3771>
IEEE 802.11b/g Smart Wi-Fi Phone

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-193 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=22464> 	
VIP-193 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=22464>
802.11b/g Functional Wi-Fi Phone
*NEW!!*


Analog Telephone Adapter

ATA-150 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=22258> 	
ATA-150 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=22258>
1 FXS SIP Analog Telephone Adapter
*NEW!!*

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


ATA-150S <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=20562> 	
ATA-150S <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=20562>
2 FXS SIP Analog Telephone Adapter
*NEW!!*

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-156 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=197> 	
VIP-156 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=197>
SIP Analog Telephone Adapter

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-157 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3595> 	
VIP-157 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3595>
1 FXS / 1 FXO SIP Analog Telephone Adapter

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-157S <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3615> 	
VIP-157S <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3615>
2 FXS SIP Analog Telephone Adapter

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-158 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3644> 	
VIP-158 <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3644>
SIP Analog Telephone Adapter

.................................................................................................................................................................................... 


VIP-156PE <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3576> 	
VIP-156PE <http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=3576>


-- 


Best Regards,

============================

Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah

General Manager

Technical Systems Est.

sabah at techsys.net

www.techsys.net

============================ 



Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> I didn't know such a thing already exists, any recommendation for an ATA
> brands? what are the prices? are they available in Kuwait? are they
> reliable? my main concern is that I dont want the device to fail
> (unregister), I've heard this problem happening in some VoIP devices.
>
> Eng. Sabah Al-Sabah wrote:
>   
>> Why don't you get a normal ATA and connect it to a any cordless phone?!
>> It is cheaper and more readily available.
>>
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct 23 10:13:04 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:13:04 +0300
Subject: [General] IBM and Canonical Launch Linux- and Cloud-based Desktop
 Software in the U.S.
Message-ID: <4AE15780.8030408@kuwaitnet.net>

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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct 23 10:24:31 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:24:31 +0300
Subject: [General] AMAZING PatchMatch via Adobe!
Message-ID: <4AE15A2F.60408@kuwaitnet.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSbjCyY7wyY&feature=player_embedded


i think in future we won't need designers to design just write a small 
paragraph for your PC about what you want and it will design it for you! :D



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From majedb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 18:30:46 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:30:46 +0300
Subject: [General] AMAZING PatchMatch via Adobe!
In-Reply-To: <4AE15A2F.60408@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AE15A2F.60408@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910230830n4d0d5946y9d317cec8cf01f07@mail.gmail.com>

I met with Professor Timothy K. Shih once in College of Engineering
during a visit he made to Kuwait.

He showed (and shared with me) a software he was researching which
does exactly the same thing, only better.
He put a picture of the Monaliza, scribbled all over it with red
lines, ran his tool and voila! The picture is back to 99% of its
original state!

http://www.mine.tku.edu.tw/advisors/tshih/default.aspx

Unfortunately, I misplaced the code, and even if I find it, I'll be
unable to share it since it's his own research code (proprietary).

That was some time in 2005 if I recall correctly. So, I see that Adobe
is quite behind in such things.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSbjCyY7wyY&feature=player_embedded
>
>
> i think in future we won't need designers to design just write a small
> paragraph for your PC about what you want and it will design it for you! :D
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>



-- 
       Majed B.



From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 01:47:23 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:47:23 +0000
Subject: [General] =?windows-1252?q?Invitation=3A_OSKW_Con_streeting_meeti?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ng_=40_Tue_Oct_27_7=3A30pm_=96_10pm_=28general=40?=
	=?windows-1252?q?oskw=2Eorg=29?=
Message-ID: <001636e90b7aa23fec0476b61ced@google.com>

You have been invited to the following event.

Title: OSKW Con streeting meeting
- General discussion of OSKW Con
- Form an organizing committee
- Suggestions
- Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
- Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
When: Tue Oct 27 7:30pm ? 10pm Kuwait
Where:  
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=29.323856,48.010484&num=1&t=h&sll=29.323876,48.010479&sspn=0.003456,0.006968&hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=37+St,+Kuwait+City,+Kuwait&ll=29.323864,48.010527&spn=0.003475,0.008256&z=18&iwloc=near
Calendar: general at oskw.org
Who:
     * Bashar Al-Abdulhadi - organizer
     * general at oskw.org

Event details:  
http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YjAzOWVodjFjdWRwbzczMjdlcWYwbjM5MHMgZ2VuZXJhbEBvc2t3Lm9yZw&tok=MjAjYmFzaGFyQGt1d2FpdG5ldC5uZXQxNGI3MDg2YzBmMWI5OWQ4YjE1YzIxYzAxYmI5YmNmNDE0MDc5OTJk&ctz=Asia%2FKuwait&hl=en

Invitation from Google Calendar: http://www.google.com/calendar/

You are receiving this courtesy email at the account general at oskw.org  
because you are an attendee of this event.

To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event.  
Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at  
http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for  
your entire calendar.
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 01:48:06 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:48:06 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4ACEACFB.4000105@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>	<4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>
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From majedb at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 05:03:14 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:03:14 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AE38426.4060300@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
	<4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com> <4ACEACFB.4000105@kuwaitnet.net> 
	<4AE38426.4060300@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910241903j21e9b678s43d1515241278979@mail.gmail.com>

"Spread the doom!"

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
> Event has been added to google calendar and we shall receive a notification
> in few.
-- 
       Majed B.



From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 11:28:50 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:28:50 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
Message-ID: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com>

I just recieved my confirmation so I have some google wave invites to
give out. You need to have a Google account (gmail or googlemail).
Reply back with your gmail if you want an invite.



From majedb at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 12:53:59 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:53:59 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
In-Reply-To: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Burhan!

I got an invitation through a friend & I applied for an account after
he invited me. When I got access, I didn't have any invites to give
out. Is it because I got my account through a friend & not through
Google themselves?

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Burhan Khalid <burhan.khalid at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just recieved my confirmation so I have some google wave invites to
> give out. You need to have a Google account (gmail or googlemail).
> Reply back with your gmail if you want an invite.
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



-- 
       Majed B.



From bashar.abdullah at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 13:07:18 2009
From: bashar.abdullah at gmail.com (bashar abdullah)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:07:18 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <862afa530910250307y62efeddcuf5ac226754a41694@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Majed,

It seems yes as all my friends didn't get invites yet! I however got it from
Google it seems as there was no mention of invite, thus I got 8 invites.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Burhan!
>
> I got an invitation through a friend & I applied for an account after
> he invited me. When I got access, I didn't have any invites to give
> out. Is it because I got my account through a friend & not through
> Google themselves?
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Burhan Khalid <burhan.khalid at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I just recieved my confirmation so I have some google wave invites to
> > give out. You need to have a Google account (gmail or googlemail).
> > Reply back with your gmail if you want an invite.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
>        Majed B.
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 15:40:46 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:40:46 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
In-Reply-To: <862afa530910250307y62efeddcuf5ac226754a41694@mail.gmail.com>
References: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com>
	<70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com>
	<862afa530910250307y62efeddcuf5ac226754a41694@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE4474E.8060607@kuwaitnet.net>

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From bashar.abdullah at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 15:43:24 2009
From: bashar.abdullah at gmail.com (bashar abdullah)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:43:24 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
In-Reply-To: <4AE4474E.8060607@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<862afa530910250307y62efeddcuf5ac226754a41694@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AE4474E.8060607@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <862afa530910250543l5d2927b3jcda09641b451581d@mail.gmail.com>

I think it's a bit different, since some people got their invites really
fast, others are still waiting. Maybe they see how good u r riding the wave
:)

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net>wrote:

>  i think its like old days of gmail.com it takes time when you get invites
> then you start inviting people same goes for the ones who invited the 8 just
> wait for few and you will start getting some more
>
>
>
>
>
> bashar abdullah wrote, On 10/25/2009 01:07 PM:
>
> Hi Majed,
>
> It seems yes as all my friends didn't get invites yet! I however got it
> from Google it seems as there was no mention of invite, thus I got 8
> invites.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Burhan!
>>
>> I got an invitation through a friend & I applied for an account after
>> he invited me. When I got access, I didn't have any invites to give
>> out. Is it because I got my account through a friend & not through
>> Google themselves?
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Burhan Khalid <burhan.khalid at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I just recieved my confirmation so I have some google wave invites to
>> > give out. You need to have a Google account (gmail or googlemail).
>> > Reply back with your gmail if you want an invite.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > General mailing list
>> > General at oskw.org
>> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>        Majed B.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing listGeneral at oskw.orghttp://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 17:22:19 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:22:19 +0300
Subject: [General] Google Wave Invites
In-Reply-To: <862afa530910250543l5d2927b3jcda09641b451581d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <828fd6cc0910250128p521631dbi26661c26f558ad7c@mail.gmail.com>
	<70ed7c3e0910250253g194bf445ga8d410aebf5c132a@mail.gmail.com>
	<862afa530910250307y62efeddcuf5ac226754a41694@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE4474E.8060607@kuwaitnet.net>
	<862afa530910250543l5d2927b3jcda09641b451581d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AE45F1B.8050503@kuwaitnet.net>

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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 17:27:23 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:27:23 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
Message-ID: <4AE4604B.2080703@kuwaitnet.net>

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From kuwait at q8net.com  Sun Oct 25 18:25:01 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:25:01 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
In-Reply-To: <4AE4604B.2080703@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <850818.28164.qm@web76108.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>

Nice work Bo Abdallah, bas eshwaya needs a Kuwaiti touch. :)


--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:

From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net>
Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
To: "Kuwait OpenSource Community" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:27 PM




Salaam all,





Any comments on OSKW
New Logo?







used the same O style
of opensource initiative 






any comments are
welcome to prepare for OSKW Con !


 

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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Sun Oct 25 19:02:09 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:02:09 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
In-Reply-To: <850818.28164.qm@web76108.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
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From majedb at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 19:51:24 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:51:24 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
In-Reply-To: <4AE47681.7020103@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <850818.28164.qm@web76108.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
	<4AE47681.7020103@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910250951y51f89a79nd32b67652cabef18@mail.gmail.com>

Wouldn't using the same O in the logo be considered infringement?!

The overall project looks good but it's missing something...

I'll toy with it when I get home & see what cooks up

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net>wrote:

>  Blue is the most Kuwaiti touch in a very modern way ;)
>
>
>  Kuwait national team for example :)
>
>
>  didn't want the old flag colors style to be mixed into the logo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Faisal AlAbhoul wrote, On 10/25/2009 06:25 PM:
>
>   Nice work Bo Abdallah, bas eshwaya needs a Kuwaiti touch. :)
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 10/25/09, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net><bashar at kuwaitnet.net>
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net> <bashar at kuwaitnet.net>
> Subject: [General] OSKW Logo
> To: "Kuwait OpenSource Community" <general at oskw.org> <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 5:27 PM
>
>  Salaam all,
>
>
>  Any comments on OSKW New Logo?
>
>
>
>  used the same O style of opensource initiative<http://www.opensource.org>
>
>
>
>  any comments are welcome to prepare for OSKW Con !
>
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 27 12:45:43 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:45:43 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
	<4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>

Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.

7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
> for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> 
> Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> Location: KITS
> Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> 
> I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> - General discussion of OSKW Con
> - Form an organizing committee
> - Suggestions
> - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> 
> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>>
>> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>>
>> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 



From kuwait at q8net.com  Tue Oct 27 12:53:05 2009
From: kuwait at q8net.com (Faisal AlAbhoul)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:53:05 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>


I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.

My best regards

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM

Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.

7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
> for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> 
> Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> Location: KITS
> Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> 
> I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> - General discussion of OSKW Con
> - Form an organizing committee
> - Suggestions
> - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> 
> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>>
>> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>>
>> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 

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From majedb at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:12:22 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:12:22 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
	<764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910270312y24a4373dx4114b5c6e9336e88@mail.gmail.com>

Faisal,

Ma tshoofoon shar. I have confirmations that drinking Yansoon once in
the morning cures it. Boil it & drink it hot.
If you happen to find Yansoon from multiple countries, the Chinese one
is better.

Soog el mbarkiya feeh 3a66areen. I'm almost positive you can find it there.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com> wrote:
>
> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>
> My best regards
>
> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>
> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
> > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> >
> > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> > Location: KITS
> > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> >
> > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> > - General discussion of OSKW Con
> > - Form an organizing committee
> > - Suggestions
> > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> >
> > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
> >>
> >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
> >>
> >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> General mailing list
> >> General at oskw.org
> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



--
? ? ? Majed B.



From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Tue Oct 27 13:17:53 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:17:53 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AE6C8D1.5060906@koutbo6.com>

???? ????? ?????? ???????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??????.

Inshalla by next meeting you'll be able to join us.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim

Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
> 
> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has
> invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
> 
> My best regards
> 
> --- On *Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim /<ahmad at koutbo6.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>     Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>     To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>     Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
> 
>     Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
> 
>     7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> 
>     Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>     > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the
>     best date
>     > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
>     >
>     > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
>     > Location: KITS
>     > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
>     >
>     > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
>     > - General discussion of OSKW Con
>     > - Form an organizing committee
>     > - Suggestions
>     > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
>     > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>     >
>     > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>     >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees
>     might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>     >>
>     >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>     >>
>     >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>     >>
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> General mailing list
>     >> General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>     >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>     >>
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > General mailing list
>     > General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>     > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>     >
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     General mailing list
>     General at oskw.org </mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
>     http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:23:44 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:23:44 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
References: <1504538200-1254599965-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1353174161-@bda038.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
	<4ACE979C.7090509@koutbo6.com> <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
Message-ID: <66EFB8C0-6FCA-4793-8965-EE5899372964@gmail.com>

Should we take some pictures of this meeting? Perhaps something to --  
you know -- put on our website that hasn't seen its face changed since  
when?

Just a thought. I can bring my camera along if this seems like a good  
idea.

Regards,
--
Burhan Khalid


On 27 Oct 2009, at 12:45, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:

> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best  
>> date
>> for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
>>
>> Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
>> Location: KITS
>> Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
>>
>> I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
>> - General discussion of OSKW Con
>> - Form an organizing committee
>> - Suggestions
>> - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
>> - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>>> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees  
>>> might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>>>
>>> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>>>
>>> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> General mailing list
>>> General at oskw.org
>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org




From burhan.khalid at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:24:36 2009
From: burhan.khalid at gmail.com (Burhan Khalid)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:24:36 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <32763AD9-264E-4BB2-9383-5DFD3A2013E8@gmail.com>

May Allah bless you with health. Sorry to hear about this.

Regards,
--
Burhan Khalid

On 27 Oct 2009, at 12:53, Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:

>
> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has  
> invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>
> My best regards
>
> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
>
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>
> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the  
> best date
> > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> >
> > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> > Location: KITS
> > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> >
> > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> > - General discussion of OSKW Con
> > - Form an organizing committee
> > - Suggestions
> > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> >
> > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees  
> might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
> >>
> >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
> >>
> >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> General mailing list
> >> General at oskw.org
> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org

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From hamado at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:32:42 2009
From: hamado at gmail.com (HamaD M.)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:32:42 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <32763AD9-264E-4BB2-9383-5DFD3A2013E8@gmail.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
	<32763AD9-264E-4BB2-9383-5DFD3A2013E8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <843e7d890910270332x51e474ccy76a0b6df8a9126f6@mail.gmail.com>

I am new in this group Can I come to this meeting or this meeting,
particularly those with experience?

Thanks Hamad Adhbiyah

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Burhan Khalid <burhan.khalid at gmail.com>wrote:

> May Allah bless you with health. Sorry to hear about this.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Burhan Khalid
>
> On 27 Oct 2009, at 12:53, Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
>
>
> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded
> our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>
> My best regards
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>
> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
> > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> >
> > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> > Location: KITS
> > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> >
> > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> > - General discussion of OSKW Con
> > - Form an organizing committee
> > - Suggestions
> > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> >
> > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be
> visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
> >>
> >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
> >>
> >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> General mailing list
> >> General at oskw.org
> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>
>
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> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
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From majedb at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:41:54 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:41:54 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <843e7d890910270332x51e474ccy76a0b6df8a9126f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
	<32763AD9-264E-4BB2-9383-5DFD3A2013E8@gmail.com> 
	<843e7d890910270332x51e474ccy76a0b6df8a9126f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910270341n7bca10c6xa9e156002726f6d1@mail.gmail.com>

Hamad,

Everyone is invited to come over :)

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM, HamaD M. <hamado at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am new in this group Can I come to this meeting or this meeting, particularly those with experience?
>
> Thanks Hamad Adhbiyah
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Burhan Khalid <burhan.khalid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> May Allah bless you with health. Sorry to hear about this.
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Burhan Khalid
>> On 27 Oct 2009, at 12:53, Faisal AlAbhoul wrote:
>>
>> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>>
>> My best regards
>>
>> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>>
>> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>>
>> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
>> > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
>> >
>> > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
>> > Location: KITS
>> > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
>> >
>> > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
>> > - General discussion of OSKW Con
>> > - Form an organizing committee
>> > - Suggestions
>> > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
>> > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>> >
>> > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>> >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>> >>
>> >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>> >>
>> >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> General mailing list
>> >> General at oskw.org
>> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > General mailing list
>> > General at oskw.org
>> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



--
? ? ? Majed B.



From bigheart1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 22:13:26 2009
From: bigheart1 at gmail.com (Bigheart1)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:13:26 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
	<764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6718a9dc0910271213o25c47aa6u32f9d4f0e3aac2fe@mail.gmail.com>

salamat o matshofon sharr inshallah...ajer o 3afya inshallah

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com> wrote:

>
> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded
> our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>
> My best regards
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
> Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
> To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>
>
> Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
> 7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
> > Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
> > for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
> >
> > Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
> > Location: KITS
> > Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
> >
> > I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
> > - General discussion of OSKW Con
> > - Form an organizing committee
> > - Suggestions
> > - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
> > - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> >
> > Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
> >> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be
> visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
> >>
> >> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
> >>
> >> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> General mailing list
> >> General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> >> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
> > General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> > http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org <http://mc/compose?to=General at oskw.org>
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
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From majedb at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 23:06:19 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:06:19 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <6718a9dc0910271213o25c47aa6u32f9d4f0e3aac2fe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AE6C147.1080102@koutbo6.com>
	<764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com> 
	<6718a9dc0910271213o25c47aa6u32f9d4f0e3aac2fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910271306i5f80648qe41afa2651e266cc@mail.gmail.com>

It's been a pleasure meeting you guys today.

When is the next meeting to discuss the draft presentation?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Bigheart1 <bigheart1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> salamat o matshofon sharr inshallah...ajer o 3afya inshallah
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com> wrote:
>>
>> I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>>
>> My best regards
--
? ? ? Majed B.



From ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 27 23:36:10 2009
From: ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com (A Alkhaled)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:36:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <869774.38092.qm@web36408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Faisal.. ????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? 

Sorry guys for not being able to make it to the Conference. I've been in Dubai since the beginning of the week. 

How was it? 


 <span style="font-weight:bold;">
</span>





________________________________
From: Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com>
To: General OpenSource Discussion <general at oskw.org>
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 12:53:05 PM
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con



I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.

My best regards

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> wrote:


>From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>
>
>Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>
>7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>
>Regards,
>
>Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>
>Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>> Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the best date
>> for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
>> 
>> Date: Tue
> Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
>> Location: KITS
>> Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
>> 
>> I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
>> - General discussion of OSKW Con
>> - Form an organizing committee
>> - Suggestions
>> - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
>> - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>> 
>> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>>> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>>>
>>> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>>>
>>> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> General mailing list
>>> General at oskw.org
>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> General mailing list
>> General at oskw.org
>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> 
>
>_______________________________________________
>General mailing list
>General at oskw.org
>http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Wed Oct 28 00:48:17 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:48:17 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <869774.38092.qm@web36408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
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From talal at alawadhi.com  Wed Oct 28 01:31:13 2009
From: talal at alawadhi.com (Talal Al Awadhi)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:31:13 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con Kickoff meeting
Message-ID: <4AE774B1.7000701@alawadhi.com>


Dear All,

As you may all know from our previous exchanged emails, we met today 
Tuesday 27th October 2009 at 7:30 PM sharp, to brainstorm regarding a 
yearly Conference taking place in Kuwait about Open Source.

The meeting was conducted in KITS (Kuwait Information Technology 
Society) in Al Rawdha.

The attendees are:
Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
Khaled AlMutairi
Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
Burhan Khaled
Majed B.
Osama Khayat
and my self, Talal Al Awadhi

After deep discussions, and reaching a wide scope that can be covered.We 
agreed on the following to be our first next steps:

   * Building a Slideshow together my self and Burhan about the
     Conference idea (Draft, To be updated and add more contributions
     on our next meeting, and narrowing down the idea's listed)
   * Setting up our Website by Bashar & Ahmad using django, and
     preparing a base for the conference website to help us in
     communicating with companies and interested parties in Open Source.
   * Defining the next meeting date through the mailing list, to
     discuss our deliverables and set some milestones and timelines for
     us to deliver the desired goals.

In your behalf, I would like to thank today's attendees. Its was really 
a very informative, and motivational for us all to move to the next 
steps after seeing the passion that everyone is holding to develop the 
Open Source understanding in our Lovely country.

We would like to see it, for sure with hard work to make it happen. We 
all believe its doable!

Regards,
Talal K. Al Awadhi





From majedb at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 01:42:51 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:42:51 +0300
Subject: [General] OSKW Con Kickoff meeting
In-Reply-To: <4AE774B1.7000701@alawadhi.com>
References: <4AE774B1.7000701@alawadhi.com>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910271542n165bf2a8s391df41b7360de8f@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Talal for the summary. I'm looking forward to the next
meeting & to see how I can help :)

I hope this motivates the silence people in the mailing list to join
us next time ;)

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Talal Al Awadhi <talal at alawadhi.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> As you may all know from our previous exchanged emails, we met today Tuesday
> 27th October 2009 at 7:30 PM sharp, to brainstorm regarding a yearly
> Conference taking place in Kuwait about Open Source.
>
> The meeting was conducted in KITS (Kuwait Information Technology Society) in
> Al Rawdha.
>
> The attendees are:
> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> Khaled AlMutairi
> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
> Burhan Khaled
> Majed B.
> Osama Khayat
> and my self, Talal Al Awadhi
>
> After deep discussions, and reaching a wide scope that can be covered.We
> agreed on the following to be our first next steps:
>
> ?* Building a Slideshow together my self and Burhan about the
> ? ?Conference idea (Draft, To be updated and add more contributions
> ? ?on our next meeting, and narrowing down the idea's listed)
> ?* Setting up our Website by Bashar & Ahmad using django, and
> ? ?preparing a base for the conference website to help us in
> ? ?communicating with companies and interested parties in Open Source.
> ?* Defining the next meeting date through the mailing list, to
> ? ?discuss our deliverables and set some milestones and timelines for
> ? ?us to deliver the desired goals.
>
> In your behalf, I would like to thank today's attendees. Its was really a
> very informative, and motivational for us all to move to the next steps
> after seeing the passion that everyone is holding to develop the Open Source
> understanding in our Lovely country.
>
> We would like to see it, for sure with hard work to make it happen. We all
> believe its doable!
>
> Regards,
> Talal K. Al Awadhi
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



-- 
       Majed B.



From majedb at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 00:06:34 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:06:34 +0300
Subject: [General] Open Source Digital Voting Foundation
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910281406s260b181avf77f85e71e01665a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone!

I think this is important for us to include somehow in a presentation
during the conference: http://osdv.org/

A brief description about the foundation:
Developing open source elections technology to serve as critical
democracy infrastructure.

We?re a non-profit public benefits corporation led by a group of
social entrepreneurs dedicated to sustaining technology development
efforts that create freely available, open source U.S. election
technology.
-- 
       Majed B.



From ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 29 01:53:09 2009
From: ali_alkhaled at yahoo.com (A Alkhaled)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [General] OSKW Con
In-Reply-To: <4AE76AA1.8040408@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <764120.37218.qm@web76101.mail.sg1.yahoo.com>
	<869774.38092.qm@web36408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4AE76AA1.8040408@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <948277.78383.qm@web36408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

yeah.. preparation meeting.. my bad :) 



 <span style="font-weight:bold;">
</span>





________________________________
From: Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net>
To: General OpenSource Discussion <general at oskw.org>
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 12:48:17 AM
Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con


Alkhaled: it was
preparation meeting for the Conference :) it did not actually take
place yet

planning it for next
year insha'allah



A Alkhaled wrote, On 10/27/2009 11:36 PM:

> 
>Faisal..
>????? ???? ??? ?????? ?? 
>
>>Sorry guys for not being able to make it to the Conference. I've been
>in Dubai since the beginning of the week. 
>
>>How was it? 
>
>
> 
><span style="font-weight:bold;">
>></span>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: >Faisal AlAbhoul <kuwait at q8net.com>
>To: General OpenSource
>Discussion <general at oskw.org>
>Sent: Tue, October 27,
>2009 12:53:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [General]
>OSKW Con
>
>
>
>>I apologize for not being able to attend the meeting, the H1N1 has
>invaded our house and everyone under house arrest for now.
>
>>My best regards
>
>>--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com> >wrote:
>
>
>>>>From: Ahmad Al-Ibrahim <ahmad at koutbo6.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [General] OSKW Con
>>>>To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>
>>>>Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
>>
>>
>>Reminder for today's OSKW Con meeting.
>>
>>>>7:30 PM - 10:00PM @ KITS
>>
>>>>Regards,
>>
>>>>Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>
>>>>Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>>>>> Alright, according to interested members response, I guess the
>>best date
>>>>> for OSKW Con meeting is the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Tue Oct 27, 7:30 PM - 10:00PM
>>>>> Location: KITS
>>> Map: http://bit.ly/3RyntK
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would suggest the following agenda for the meeting:
>>>>> - General discussion of OSKW Con
>>>>> - Form an organizing committee
>>>>> - Suggestions
>>>>> - Assign tasks to OSKW Con organizing committee members
>>>>> - Set date for the next meeting (preferably on regular basis)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bashar Al-Abdulhadi wrote:
>>>>>> Just make sure it doesn't hit Gitex timing as lots of
>>attendees might be visiting Gitex 18-22 Oct
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me I'm available except fridays and saturdays
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent on the go via BlackBerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> General mailing list
>>>>>> General at oskw.org
>>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> General mailing list
>>>>> General at oskw.org
>>>>> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>General mailing list
>>General at oskw.org
>>http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>> 
>
>
________________________________

>_______________________________________________
>General mailing list
>General at oskw.org http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org 


      
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct 30 03:55:16 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:55:16 +0300
Subject: [General] want to download latest ubuntu faster than ever?
Message-ID: <4AEA3974.7000008@kuwaitnet.net>

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From majedb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 03:57:51 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:57:51 +0300
Subject: [General] want to download latest ubuntu faster than ever?
In-Reply-To: <4AEA3974.7000008@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AEA3974.7000008@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910291757s697a28c8wd9317e781d0df343@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure about how you got your copy from QNet, but seems like FT have
a cached version of the file.

QNet has a mirror. One of the guys posted a graph of their pipe usage.
It peaked to 100Mbit for 2 hours!

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
> Reminder we have a Kuwaiti mirror :) get it from here: http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/karmic/
>
> this was my speed @ home from qnet connection
>
>
>
> although i was betting 200ish from Fasttelco connection too from non-Kuwait based mirror
>
> seems both ISPs giving their maximum 2Mbps ;)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> General at oskw.org
> http://oskw.org/mailman/listinfo/general_oskw.org
>



--
? ? ? Majed B.



From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct 30 04:10:50 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (Bashar Al-Abdulhadi)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:10:50 +0300
Subject: [General] want to download latest ubuntu faster than ever?
In-Reply-To: <70ed7c3e0910291757s697a28c8wd9317e781d0df343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AEA3974.7000008@kuwaitnet.net>
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From majedb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 30 04:13:35 2009
From: majedb at gmail.com (Majed B.)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:13:35 +0300
Subject: [General] want to download latest ubuntu faster than ever?
In-Reply-To: <4AEA3D1A.2030703@kuwaitnet.net>
References: <4AEA3974.7000008@kuwaitnet.net>
	<70ed7c3e0910291757s697a28c8wd9317e781d0df343@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AEA3D1A.2030703@kuwaitnet.net>
Message-ID: <70ed7c3e0910291813p331c8b08r56fce8488eaf8287@mail.gmail.com>

I can ask the guys to check the IPs -> names :p

Were you downloading from the QNet Ubuntu mirror or a random Ubuntu mirror?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
> Majed B. wrote, On 10/30/2009 03:57 AM:
>
> Not sure about how you got your copy from QNet, but seems like FT have
> a cached version of the file.
>
>
> what do you mean not sure how i got my copy from qnet?
>
> i'm still downloading from qnet at the rate 230-260Kbps
>
> for FT noway they cache an iso file, i download all the time from many
> places /different files at 200ish Kbps
>
> thats normal for 2Mbps connection
>
>
> QNet has a mirror. One of the guys posted a graph of their pipe usage.
> It peaked to 100Mbit for 2 hours!
>
>
> 2hrs ?! ya3ne? ~25 people were downloading at max speed at that time
> (averaging between 1 & 2Mbps for example)
>
> where are they :D need to pull them for the conference ! :)
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> <bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
>
> Reminder we have a Kuwaiti mirror :) get it from here:
> http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/karmic/
>
> this was my speed @ home from qnet connection
>
>
>
> although i was betting 200ish from Fasttelco connection too from non-Kuwait
> based mirror
>
> seems both ISPs giving their maximum 2Mbps ;)
>
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From bashar at kuwaitnet.net  Fri Oct 30 05:06:31 2009
From: bashar at kuwaitnet.net (=?utf-8?B?QmFzaGFyIEFsLUFiZHVsaGFkaQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:06:31 -0000
Subject: [General]
	=?utf-8?q?want_to_download_latest_ubuntu_faster_than_ev?=
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Message-ID: <mailman.1.1606338592.2922.general_oskw.org@oskw.org>

The screenshot was from qnet mirror on qnet 2Mbps link :)

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Majed B." <majedb at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 04:13
Subject: [General] want to download latest ubuntu faster than ever?
To: "General OpenSource Discussion" <general at oskw.org>

I can ask the guys to check the IPs -> names :p

Were you downloading from the QNet Ubuntu mirror or a random Ubuntu mirror?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
> Majed B. wrote, On 10/30/2009 03:57 AM:
>
> Not sure about how you got your copy from QNet, but seems like FT have
> a cached version of the file.
>
>
> what do you mean not sure how i got my copy from qnet?
>
> i'm still downloading from qnet at the rate 230-260Kbps
>
> for FT noway they cache an iso file, i download all the time from many
> places /different files at 200ish Kbps
>
> thats normal for 2Mbps connection
>
>
> QNet has a mirror. One of the guys posted a graph of their pipe usage.
> It peaked to 100Mbit for 2 hours!
>
>
> 2hrs ?! ya3ne? ~25 people were downloading at max speed at that time
> (averaging between 1 & 2Mbps for example)
>
> where are they :D need to pull them for the conference ! :)
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> <bashar at kuwaitnet.net> wrote:
>
>
> Reminder we have a Kuwaiti mirror :) get it from here:
> http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/karmic/
>
> this was my speed @ home from qnet connection
>
>
>
> although i was betting 200ish from Fasttelco connection too from non-Kuwait
> based mirror
>
> seems both ISPs giving their maximum 2Mbps ;)
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From ahmad at koutbo6.com  Fri Oct 30 19:12:53 2009
From: ahmad at koutbo6.com (Ahmad Al-Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:12:53 +0300
Subject: [General] VoIP For Home Usage
Message-ID: <4AEB1085.7050606@koutbo6.com>

This is email number 170 on VoIP For Home Usage, sorry for spamming you
again :)

OSKW is about sharing knowledge and here is the tip of the day:

Its annoying to dial 9 then the number of the person you're trying to
call, specially in mobile phones, since you already have most contacts
saved. And all what you want to do is go to the saved contact number and
dial by using internet call.

To do that we use the following Dial patterns in outbound routes:

+965|[2569]XXXXXXX
18XXXXX
1XX
[2569]XXXXXXX

In the first rule we need to strip the prefix "+965" by using |
other rules are straight forward to cover Kuwaiti numbers.

Enjoy calling your contacts without dialing 9.

Regards,

Ahmad Al-Ibrahim



