[General] Open Source maturity

bashar abdullah bashar.abdullah at gmail.com
Sat Jun 27 16:28:49 +03 2009


Burhan: Isn't it awkward from Microsoft to invite open source contributors
to a .Net proprietary platform? :)

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, bashar abdullah
<bashar.abdullah at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yeah, read this book last year I think. Pretty funny and enjoyable :P. This
> guy is the luckiest bastard alive I guess!
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Talal!
>>
>> I have just finished reading the book: Just for Fun: The Story of an
>> Accidental Revolutionary
>> Link:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Just-Fun-Story-Accidental-Revolutionary/dp/0066620732/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246085493&sr=8-1
>>
>> The book is by Linus Torvalds and David Diamond and it tells you how
>> Linux started, how Open Source started, its meaning, goals and some
>> points of Open Source vs. Copyright/Closed Source approaches.
>>
>> The book is FUN, as it says, and funny at times. I finished it in less
>> than a week with a few hours of reading a day. It's not like you can
>> drop the book once starting, but sometimes you're compelled :p
>>
>> Microsoft has been doing open source projects (on a very light side)
>> for quite some time, but their projects are negligible, they use their
>> own license, and their own portal, instead of using an existing Open
>> Source license and SourceForge.net. (Reminds you of OOXML, no? ;p)
>>
>> As long as Microsoft's management is the same old blood, nothing will
>> change. Will keep releasing alpha binaries as initial releases,
>> release new OS versions where they should be service packs, frustrate
>> users with ever changing User Interface (UI) and Steve Ballmer will
>> keep throwing chairs...
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Talal Al Awadhi<talal at alawadhi.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have been thinking in the past 2 days, 4 hours in a day minimum, about
>> > Open Source as a term.
>> >
>> > So, I decided to google Open Source 30 minutes back, I wanted to read
>> more
>> > about how it started. And how this "Concept" has grown lately solidly &
>> > successfully, but slowly, which also made the growth solid on a concrete
>> > foundation.
>> >
>> > Some has started commercializing the Open Source driven products in
>> > different techniques (Red Hat, MySQL, Scalix, vBulletin, SugarCRM), and
>> some
>> > started converting closed source projects to Open Source (Symbian by
>> NOKIA).
>> >
>> > Figures, either by adoption, or financial results proves the success
>> that
>> > Open Source is giving looks amazing. Looking at the android pre-release
>> > acceptance for this mobile OS, driven by the Open Source Phenomena,
>> proves
>> > that the wave of Open Source is coming no matter what happens or other
>> huge
>> > players act or improve in their closed source projects and softwares.
>> >
>> > I expect personally, that Microsoft gets into the wave very soon (Forced
>> for
>> > sure to keep its leading position in the software market) either wise it
>> > will lose its leading position to other software vendors who can
>> understand
>> > & develop an innovative way of producing a competing money making
>> softwares
>> > for public under the Open Source umbrella.
>> >
>> > Coming back to the beginning, I believe that till today, you can't relay
>> on
>> > a book to get accurate information or a right understanding on what Open
>> > Source is, how it started, and how to commercialize Open Source in an
>> > ethical way, or lets say "The right way of doing it", or the right way
>> to
>> > explain it to people who doesn't understand Open Source. Below some
>> examples
>> > on books on Open Source:
>> > Producing Open Source Software by Karl Fogel
>> > The Success of Open Source by Steven Weber
>> > The Open Source Alternative by Heather J. Meeker
>> > Open Sources 2.0 by Chris DiBona, Mark Stone, and Danese Cooper
>> >
>> > I highly believe that many conflicting information are there in these
>> books,
>> > even though they share and support Open Source. But I was not able to
>> get a
>> > concrete information about it. And thats healthy and normal, its just a
>> new
>> > thing growing world wide, and these great people are trying to document
>> what
>> > ever they know about it.
>> >
>> > Here is an attached PowerPoint slides (and a PDF copy of it for Linux
>> people
>> > here), that summarize Open Source and how it started.
>> >
>> > I would appreciate to see some corrections on what is written there, to
>> help
>> > me and anyone Interested on understanding Open Source history, to be
>> able to
>> > forecast how fast it can go forward, and to help also in convincing more
>> > people by explaining it in a right way as open source deserves to be
>> > explained.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Talal AlAwadhi
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>>       Majed B.
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