[General] OpenProj - Opensource Microsoft Projects replacement

Fri Jun 19 19:42:45 +03 2009

Thanks for the ownership info. Getting the number by Google employee by it
self is not wrong, but digging through my account details, and calling me
without prior notice for the sake of tricking me to move my address to fake
SA one before Kuwait domain opens sounded so fishy and unethical. To prove
my point, several weeks later a guy from Ireland contacted me directly
offering optimization support. So what the Egyptian guy was saying is all
fake! He was sniffing into details for his own benefit and not mine. That's
abusing, I would hate if every now and the a guy calls to move me to his
country address.

To prove he was from Google, he knew lots of details of my account, and
contacted me from Google email address back and forth. I am shocked Google
would hire such a guy actually.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
<bashar at kuwaitnet.net>wrote:

>  Google has an official local presence in saudi arabia ? never knew that!
> because google.com.sa actually registered for the US based company as per
> the whois info
>
>
>  although i doubt the launch of google.com.kw launch has anything related
> to the case since the domain was registered back in 2007 via power of
> attorney given to talal abu ghazaleh office in Kuwait (http://www.kw check
> the owner)
>
>
>  but yet if he was a real google employee or even authorized
> reseller/partner i dont see how getting your number is an abuse if something
> mention in their Terms&Conditions that they are allowed to contact their
> customers
>
>
>
>
>
> bashar abdullah wrote, On 06/19/2009 10:12 AM:
>
> Actually, I was more concerned about some insider abusing his rights. For
> instance, once a very unprofessional Egyptian guy from Google Saudi Arabia
> called me asking me to move my Adwords account to Saudi Arabia billing
> system, saying this way he can officially manage my account and dedicate
> people from UK to help me run it. He got my phone number and called me
> straight from my Google account info. Not a single Google employee ever did,
> and he did it with this claim of helping me, saying Google doesn't have
> presence in Kuwait. He even explicitly suggested I use a fake SA address
> just for the sake of it.
>
> What happened two weeks later? Google.com.kw launched! Clearly he was
> taking Kuwaiti phone numbers trying to make them his customer. This is one
> slight example of individual abusing.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi <bashar at kuwaitnet.net
> > wrote:
>
>>  there has been concerns by lots of ppl that google passes info to the
>> government, so with all their access to everything it would be piece of cake
>> to search into everything.
>>
>>
>>  but ppl who has stuff to hide wont use neither free or paid hosted
>> services IMO :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> bashar abdullah wrote, On 06/18/2009 09:29 PM:
>>
>>  YES... That point is true. So if you grow real large to be recognized
>> globally, then perhaps you should move away from them. But not while on a
>> small local scale I think
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes I fear the fact that Google has all the info about you &
>>> your business... (They also have free and paid Corporate Email
>>> services)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:23 PM, bashar
>>>  abdullah<bashar.abdullah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Exactly Majed. They have all the complementary pieces ready. Give it
>>> another
>>> > year trust me :)
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Majed B. <majedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think it's an easy task Bashar, so don't get your hopes high
>>> too
>>> >> early.
>>> >>
>>> >> Though I think if Google is to do that, they'd integrate it with
>>> >> Calendar, Documents and Maps.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, bashar
>>> >> abdullah<bashar.abdullah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Frankly, right now I am depending on online project management tools
>>> >> > like
>>> >> > Basecamp and Zoho. They're not so concrete yet, but what I'm really
>>> >> > waiting
>>> >> > for is Google to merge what they have and add to it the project
>>> >> > management.
>>> >> > This would be real killer!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
>>> >> > <bashar at kuwaitnet.net>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Salaam,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Weekend Gift :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> For those who didn't like Dia ;) here is another MS-Projects
>>> >> >> replacementhttp://openproj.org/
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> since i wasn't Ms-project user i can't review both.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> any reviews are more than welcome :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Best Regards,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Bashar
>>> >> >>
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