[General] 3G iPhone Announced
bashar abdullah
bashar.abdullah at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 11:58:32 +03 2008
Yeah, if you're not in heaven, this is the second best thing!
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Burhan Khalid <burhan at kuwaitnet.net>
wrote:
> bashar abdullah wrote:
>
>> Thanks Burhan,
>>
>> You have made it much quicker for me to go through the features. I am
>> owning an HTC right now, it's not bad at all, but has some stupid thinks
>> however. Still, the iPhone multi-touch screen experience I have to say is
>> incomparable, and their browsing and zooming is, revolutionary. But what I
>> hate about it is how it's locked, in terms of apps and operator mobility,
>> and some typical features that they keep missing, such as:
>>
>> - Video recording. COME ON!
>> - No MMS. Not so common in Kuwait at least, but still, it's basic thing.
>> - SMS Forward: I heard you can't forward SMS in old iPhone. Is that still
>> the case? If so it's so silly.
>>
>
> I don't know about forwarding SMS, as I don't actually *own* an iphone, but
> I have done extensive ... uh ... "research" ... on borrowed ones.
>
> There are some other strange limits, such as a maximum number of SMS
> messages on the device -- which cannot be transferred; I'm assuming this is
> due to the jailbreaking. So after you reach this limit, you must delete
> messages.
>
> I know that if someone happens to send you MMS (which, I don't know anyone
> that uses it), you cannot click on the link in the SMS to open it in Safari.
> Unbelievable, but true.
>
> For video recording, although there is no native support, I have heard of
> software that can do it.
>
> I wouldn't care so much about front camera. Adds weight, cost, probably
>> size. And when was the last time you saw someone using video calling. For
>> me, it was only during my telecom working days :)
>>
>> But the fact that you couldn't even search by name makes it more as what I
>> call, sorry, Beta! This is typical functionality. So how would you go
>> through 200+ contacts? I'm sure Jobs have that number.
>>
>
> This has been fixed in the 2.0 release. The previous releases added such
> revolutionary features as ... send one SMS ... to multiple people! Wow! So
> amazing! I think my Nokia 2600 could do it :/
>
> HTC Dream. I've been waiting long for it until my phone decided it's had
>> enough and died. So I had to go for something quick. I would like to have
>> the HTC Android phone, but the first release I doubt will compare to Windows
>> HTC, as it now opens PDFs, and has Office with it. The Android will
>> definitely need more time, or a breakthrough like Apple did.
>>
>
> Yes, and I think what people call this is the "killer app". Android needs
> one, badly. A killer app and a killer device to go with it.
>
> The iphone is gaining traction as more of a development/gaming platform and
> less as a phone. I'm sure Apple knows this, as they released the ipod touch
> (which is the iphone, minus the crappy phone part) and included wifi. It
> instantly jumped to #1 on the PMP list. If they put a GPS chip in the ipod
> touch (which they will never, ever do) I'll never buy the iphone.
>
> This is also the reason that 98% of the WWDC keynote was around the new SDK
> and software on the iphone, and nothing about the new release of OSX, which
> was briefly mentioned by Jobs in the beginning that they will be discussing
> that "after lunch". Its a stark contrast to the previous WWDC keynotes which
> have all been about OSX.
>
> Isn't it great to be a geek (and a developer) :)
>
> --
> Burhan Khalid
> Signal > Noise
>
>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Burhan Khalid <burhan at kuwaitnet.net<mailto:
>> burhan at kuwaitnet.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Ahmad Al-Ibrahim wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking today shall I buy an iPhone 3G and become a slave
>> to whoever is going to jailbreak the iPhone 3G? or wait for the
>> Dream? HTC Dream based on the open source Android Google mobile
>> platform which is going to be released very soon.
>>
>> And my choice is definitely an Android based mobile. Watch the
>> Android video and enjoy!
>> http://code.google.com/android/
>>
>>
>> Here are my main opinions/concerns about it:
>>
>> On the list of OHA members, one name is conspicuously missing:
>> Nokia. The number one cellphone maker in the world. Also missing is
>> Symbian under software companies, which makes me think that whatever
>> device ends up supporting Android, it probably won't be from Nokia,
>> and it probably won't be binary compatible with Symbian.
>>
>> HTC is there, which means you can expect the quality of HTC for
>> whenever the Android-based device hits Kuwait; although I doubt it
>> will be a wide release considering the large market share that
>> Windows has and I doubt with Microsoft's tactics they will make it
>> easy for HTC to manufacture devices based on anything other than
>> WinMo; the other major OEM is Motorola -- and well, as I'm sure you
>> all know, that company is not doing so well.
>>
>> So I think that what will break the Android is the device.
>>
>> Android's chief claim is that:
>>
>> "Android was built from the ground-up to enable developers to create
>> compelling mobile applications that take full advantage of all a
>> handset has to offer. It is built to be truly open. For example, an
>> application could call upon any of the phone's core functionality
>> such as making calls, sending text messages, or using the camera,
>> allowing developers to create richer and more cohesive experiences
>> for users."
>>
>> Now what this means to me as a user is that -- there is no sandbox
>> for applications. If someone writes a rogue app for Android, it can
>> easily start spamming people in my contact list. Not believing this
>> to be true, I looked around and then I found this:
>>
>> "Android has been designed to include a rigorous security model, and
>> when phones are available we expect Android to be among the most
>> secure mobile operating systems available. However, right now the
>> Android SDK is under active development and has not yet been
>> subjected to an extensive security review."
>>
>> This could mean that after this security review, some of the touted
>> features of Android could be scrapped, limited, or only available
>> after a signing process (ala Symbian).
>>
>> So Android sounds nice, but really -- is it worth waiting for? What
>> can you get from Android (as far as the SDK is concerned) that is
>> not available in the Apple SDK for the iphone/ipod?
>>
>> Meanwhile .... over at Planet Apple in Fruit Universe:
>>
>> Some interesting things about the new iphone:
>>
>> 1. It will be released July 11.
>> 2. Total list of countries to be released to: 70 (including Qatar,
>> Jordan and Egypt -- no Kuwait). Not all countries will get the phone
>> on the 11th.
>> 3. No Arabic support.
>> 4. HSDPA/WiFi/A-GPS
>> 5. Base price (in all markets) for the 8GB model = $199. It will
>> most probably require a 2 year contract, or may be more expensive if
>> its not carrier subsidized as is the case in the Middle East.
>> 6. Improved audio quality.
>> 7. Flush 3.5mm headset jack.
>> 8. Will come with a "SIM ejector" device in the box.
>> 9. Includes ActiveSync, Cisco VPN encryption, and other "enterprise"
>> features like remote wipe.
>> 10. Improved SDK which matches that of OSX (including API calls)
>> 11. Unique, third party (Apple) background messaging queue -- which
>> prevents apps from hogging memory in the background (ala Windows)
>> and pre-FP1 Symbian.
>> 12. Runs the same kernel as OSX (this is not new, but worth
>> mentioning in light of Android)
>> 13. It includes 3 sensors: Proximity, Light, Accelerometer -- all
>> have APIs.
>> 14. Games available from independent developers and major publishers
>> like SEGA; graphics quality the best I have seen; one even uses the
>> accelrometer as a steering wheel for a racing game.
>> 15. Updated software version (2.0) -- free for existing iphones,
>> $9.99 for ipod touch.
>> 16. Base model is in black, the updated 32GB one is also available
>> in white.
>>
>> Things that are still missing:
>>
>> 1. No A2DP aka stereo Bluetooth.
>> 2. No front camera for video calling.
>> 3. Same 2MP back camera.
>> 4. No video recording (still).
>> 5. No MMS support.
>>
>> Things that are "new" for Apple fanatics:
>>
>> 1. Multiple select and delete messages/contacts.
>> 2. Search contacts by name (shocked this wasn't in the default build).
>>
>> Its a great device as a platform for developing apps, and a great
>> browser and media device.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Burhan Khalid
>> Signal > Noise
>>
>>
>>
>> Burhan Khalid wrote:
>>
>> Apple has just announced the 3G iphone. Get your
>> wallets/purses out!
>>
>> Live audio:
>>
>> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wwdc-2008-live-keynote-audio-stream
>>
>>
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